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The Green Party leader has hired a GOP consulting firm and worked with Trump-affiliated lawyers.

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 154 points 1 month ago (11 children)

I'm sure the usual suspects will be along shortly to explain how this isn't what it absolutely, positively is.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 52 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Our biggest offender would, but they're currently serving a 3-day ban for Sealioning (public mod logs are awesome).

[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TIL there's a public mod log

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[–] darharrison@lemm.ee 48 points 1 month ago (4 children)

"Anything to beat the 'duopoly' of political parties, even if the party is tainted by neo-fascist dark money!"

Absolutely wild mental gymnastics lol

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[–] KnitWit@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Probably at the stage where it turns into ‘it doesn’t matter since she won’t win anyway, this is just a protest vote to show support for third party.’

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 38 points 1 month ago (41 children)

Third party that are just Russians. What a pathetic way to protest.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 15 points 1 month ago

You called it!

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[–] ravhall@discuss.online 67 points 1 month ago (160 children)

With all this stuff about Jill coming out, it’s no wonder all the Lemmy.ml and Hexbears are so supportive of her. She’s a Russian asset!

What is the Russian word for Wumao?

[–] logos@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It could just be she made a career out of unsucessfully running for president and doesn't care where the money came from.

That's supposedly how the whole Trump mess started.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 14 points 1 month ago

You mean him just wanting to make money by running for president never actually expecting to run and regretting every minute of it while trying to be so vile he could never get elected again only to realize that’s what his base wants?

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[–] Cheems@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (13 children)

...I would argue that even insurrectionist is being far, far too lenient. They should be called terrorists. But, yeah, calling them "rioters".....barf.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nothing about this story or Jill is important except for one thing. She is aligned with Putin in denying Ukraine weapons to defend itself. She may not be purposefully supporting Putin but she is supporting his position and making his position stronger ignoring Putin's past patterns of behavior.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I wonder where she got the money from?

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 20 points 1 month ago

Uncle Putin?

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

Jill was always a double agent

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I think he’s still under his temporary ban ;)

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Only 21 hours to go before we get graced with their wonderful presence again!

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[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Honestly, I think the mods should be promoted to sainthood for the level of patience they've shown with Monk (who as of late runs what seems to be a community related to MGTOW but without the toxicity called MRTOW) which is so beyond what I feel I'm capable of. I hope Monk appreciates the level of leeway they've been given here.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

I’m honestly not sure if sainthood is the way I’d put it. It feels negligent to me. But in fairness I’d love to hear the mods perspective on what they consider the threshold for trolling. It almost feels like it’s a secondary offense here. Like they won’t ban you for trolling, it’s got to be trolling aaaand [pejoratives|hate speech|etc].

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The Green Party in the USA is f'n weird.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Green Party has no incentive to act professionally because voters cannot punish them electorally for it.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (21 children)

In Nevada, the Democratic Party initiated a lawsuit to exclude the Green Party from the ballot, claiming the party used the wrong form to collect signatures from voters. The Green Party appealed the case and was represented by Jay Sekulow, an attorney who defended Trump throughout his impeachment trials (last week, the Nevada Supreme Court rejected Stein’s bid to be put back on the ballot).

In Wisconsin, Democratic National Committee employee David Strange sought to remove Stein from the ballot by arguing the Green Party can’t nominate presidential electors without legislative candidates eligible to do so. The Wisconsin Supreme Court declined to hear the case. Stein was again legally represented by a Trump-affiliated lawyer, Michael D. Dean, who was involved in lawsuits that attempted to overturn the results of the 2020 election, the Journal reported.

From another article:

The affidavit originally submitted with the Green Party’s petition in July 2023 was the correct one. However, because the petition that the Green Party submitted contained a separate mistake, an employee in the secretary of state’s office sent the party a sample petition that included the wrong affidavit – for use with petitions to put initiatives and referenda on the ballot. As a result, the affidavits that the Green Party later submitted with its petitions did not contain the attestation required for access to the ballot.

The secretary of state eventually announced that the Green Party had submitted enough signatures to qualify for the 2024 general election ballot.

The Nevada Democratic Party went to state court in June of this year, arguing that the signatures were invalid because the Green Party had used the wrong affidavit.

On Aug. 12, the state trial court ruled in favor of the Green Party, but on Sept. 6 a divided Nevada Supreme Court reversed. It concluded that the attestation that the Green Party had failed to include “serves an essential purpose.” Therefore, the majority reasoned, allowing the Green Party to have its candidates on the ballot when it had not fulfilled all of the prerequisites to do so would nullify “the requirements that were put in place for the public’s benefit.”

SCOTUS ruled with the Nevada Supreme Court and chose to keep the Green Party off the ballot. Their only real mistake here was really just some legal red tape filled out incorrectly. It doesn't really matter if Jill Stein is a terrible candidate or not, the two party system will clearly go to the ends of the earth to kill 3rd parties from every becoming a thing lol. I guess it matters more for democrats since green party would be taking out more of their votes than republicans.

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