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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (38 children)
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Go watch a crash test for a Kei truck

Edit: at 0:50 https://youtu.be/roLcNwRi1Sk

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And if people were buying massive trucks for their unmatched safety, that would be a point worth making. Unfortunately, there's thousands of cars on the market that are safer than both those options (for both the occupants and the people around them) and some of them can fit just as much in the back.

There is no justification for these trucks. Not safety, not cost, not the environment, not accessibility and not the amount of stuff they can theoretically carry.

The only excuse is "I'm a massive cunt" and people are absolutely right to not accept it.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But we're comparing getting a Kei truck instead of regular truck in this part of the conversation so it actually does make sense to discuss the safety question.

The conversation you want to have is elsewhere in this post.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, I think OP is making a valid point. If you start with a Kei and just add in modern safety features and nothing else, the size of the vehicle will be a lot closer to the Kei than the other monstrosity.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

https://www.wardsauto.com/regulatory/chery-transcab-suzuki-carry-lcvs-flunk-safety-tests

I had already shared a link about modern Kei trucks in another comment, they get a safety rating of zero even with modern safety features.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not saying the modern Kei must be safe. I’m saying if you do things to make it safer while prioritizing small size, you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

They literally just provided that vehicle for you….. still not safe….. because it can’t be done at that size… instead of claiming something, provide an example to show it’s even possible mate.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Smart gets a 5 star crash rating and is smaller than a. Kei truck. It can be done. Get Smart to make a pickup, literally just stick a bed on the back of the thing.

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[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’m not saying at that size! I’m saying that whatever size increase you need to make a reasonably safe pickup would be closer to the small extreme (the Kei) than the large extreme.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then you end up with the smaller trucks we already have on the market or a Maverick that has a bed so small that it's not that useful for actual truck stuff...

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)

Surely you can imagine a truck that may or may not currently be on the market. This theoretical truck is minimally large enough to be reasonably safe, and also has a bed is as big as the trucks pictured. Like, a truck that does not have four doors and two rows of seating.

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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean modern kei trucks have airbags and safety features. They just have to buy 25 year or older to use the classic care rule.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (21 children)

And the one in-front is becoming legally impossible to drive.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (6 children)

But nowhere near the same driver comfort, crash test rating, towing capacity, top speed, tongue weight, or max load weight. Bed length alone is a poor measurement for a truck's usefulness.

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[–] Neato@ttrpg.network 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People used to use trucks for hauling. Now they are $70k+ status symbols for people who need to scream, "I am insecure."

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I saw some truck commercial yesterday where the thing was eighty thousand dollars AFTER all incentives and rebates.

I thought to myself that the people who are screaming about inflation and how the Democrat president is ruining their lives are the same people who are lining up to make crazy monthly payments into a vehicle that will immediately be upside down on the note.

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