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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (38 children)
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (21 children)

And the one in-front is becoming legally impossible to drive.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Go watch a crash test for a Kei truck

Edit: at 0:50 https://youtu.be/roLcNwRi1Sk

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And if people were buying massive trucks for their unmatched safety, that would be a point worth making. Unfortunately, there's thousands of cars on the market that are safer than both those options (for both the occupants and the people around them) and some of them can fit just as much in the back.

There is no justification for these trucks. Not safety, not cost, not the environment, not accessibility and not the amount of stuff they can theoretically carry.

The only excuse is "I'm a massive cunt" and people are absolutely right to not accept it.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But we're comparing getting a Kei truck instead of regular truck in this part of the conversation so it actually does make sense to discuss the safety question.

The conversation you want to have is elsewhere in this post.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No, I think OP is making a valid point. If you start with a Kei and just add in modern safety features and nothing else, the size of the vehicle will be a lot closer to the Kei than the other monstrosity.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.wardsauto.com/regulatory/chery-transcab-suzuki-carry-lcvs-flunk-safety-tests

I had already shared a link about modern Kei trucks in another comment, they get a safety rating of zero even with modern safety features.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m not saying the modern Kei must be safe. I’m saying if you do things to make it safer while prioritizing small size, you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (8 children)

you’ll end up with something a lot closer to the size of the Kei than the other car.

They literally just provided that vehicle for you….. still not safe….. because it can’t be done at that size… instead of claiming something, provide an example to show it’s even possible mate.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m not saying at that size! I’m saying that whatever size increase you need to make a reasonably safe pickup would be closer to the small extreme (the Kei) than the large extreme.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then you end up with the smaller trucks we already have on the market or a Maverick that has a bed so small that it's not that useful for actual truck stuff...

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Surely you can imagine a truck that may or may not currently be on the market. This theoretical truck is minimally large enough to be reasonably safe, and also has a bed is as big as the trucks pictured. Like, a truck that does not have four doors and two rows of seating.

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[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Smart gets a 5 star crash rating and is smaller than a. Kei truck. It can be done. Get Smart to make a pickup, literally just stick a bed on the back of the thing.

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[–] Pistcow@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I mean modern kei trucks have airbags and safety features. They just have to buy 25 year or older to use the classic care rule.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But nowhere near the same driver comfort, crash test rating, towing capacity, top speed, tongue weight, or max load weight. Bed length alone is a poor measurement for a truck's usefulness.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

So is using those other measurements as a reason to justify owning a truck for most people. The Apes (Italian) serve a purpose, not a daily driver. Living in Houston I observed American sized trucks carrying single occupants with the occasional truck towing something once a month. That’s it, none of these people needed a truck for a daily driver which is what that pic is all about.

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