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[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 111 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Trump owns nearly 59% of Trump Media’s stock. Even after losing much of its value, Trump’s stake at Wednesday’s stock price is still worth more than $2.2 billion — more than half of his on-paper net worth, according to Forbes.

Yea, I call bullshit on that.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (4 children)

If he tries to sell any substantial portion of his holding, the price will crater.

[–] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 73 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Thats the best part! He can take out loans against that as collateral. Then when he inevitabley defaults and the banks finally acknowledge the collateral is worthless, we bail out the banks! Capitalism!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Not if there's a state actor or two to keep buying. I wonder who that would be...

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But it won't matter because he'll have already sold. Well, it won't matter to him.

[–] SinTacks@programming.dev 23 points 2 months ago

He can’t just sell 2bn at once. They’re saying as he sold the price would naturally crater even without news getting involved.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Since the stock price is based on fee-fees, grift, bribery, and money laundering - there is absolutely no reason to think this is true.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Key word: on paper. No one besides Saudis and Putin will pay anywhere close to that amount

[–] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are 192M shares and an average daily volume of 5.5M.

There is no way Trump could sell 113M shares quickly, the stock would absolutely crater and the market would react.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

But he can still borrow against the value of those shares.

That’s how these parasites afford all their private jets and other insane luxuries. They just pull out loans against the value of their stock holdings, pay accountants to make sure it’s never a problem, and essentially spend their money while keeping it too.

It’s insane, because they essentially never have to pay taxes on anything but their personal income, and then you have grifters like musk who don’t even take salaries and just live off the loans.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Wait until the weird orange felon cashes out as soon he can, leaving all his poor investors with worthless TS stock that they mortgages their mobile homes for.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

They're only worth that if people buy the shares

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Well his worth changes every day, just on how he feels alone!

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 74 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The deal would “guarantee access to additional capital, if necessary, to pursue big strategic opportunities as we look to build out our portfolio by acquiring assets and technologies in the Patriot economy,” Trump Media CEO Devin Nunes said in a July 3 press release

wtf is 'the patriot economy'??

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 97 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The economy of selling worthless things to cult members.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I recently approached a friend asking that they seriously consider whether we would have moral issues against getting in on the grift. There was that asshole who sold patriot beer for a huge, shitty markup when the budweiser thing happened. It wasn't even good beer. I said that we could put in incredibly little effort and make money off these rubes. My logic was that they were going to purchase stupid products like that anyway, so why not get their money ourselves.

We went back and forth on it. We concluded that we'd only create products that 1. did no harm to marginalized groups and 2. would end up leading cultists to tell on themselves. We agreed to let the idea percolate to see if we thought there were good opportunities worth our time.

An example of telling on themselves might be a tshirt that says, "Guess I'm deplorable," if it were 2016. We kicked around some contemporary phrasing. Nothing has been worth making the effort, so far.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

I briefly considered doing the same. Ultimately I decided I didn't want to take advantage of other poor people. Yes, they were probably going to spend their money anyway but I would have trouble sleeping for being part of the problem. You do you tho. I ain't telling no one how to live

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 44 points 2 months ago

wtf is 'the patriot economy'??

Suckers.

'Patriot economy' just tested better in focus groups.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I think this is just a call for all Trump fans to do with this stock what Reddit did with Game stop. Buy and hold until Trump can legally sell his shares and burn the stock to the ground.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 16 points 2 months ago

“The patriot economy” = laundering Russian and Saudi money

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The Patriot economy is that made of the true, red-blooded Americans.

https://youtu.be/hYTQ7__NNDI

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

They are rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers and Methodists.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

So, cunts and Methodists?

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago

Where the white women at?

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Could you repeat that, Sir?

[–] Bumblefumble@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I'm more interested in wtf is a "Devin Nunes"?? Almost gives me cow vibes, but idk.

[–] Delusional@lemmy.world 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 months ago

Still $40 over-valued

[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 months ago
[–] samokosik@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Good news!! 20 to go!

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There would be justice if everyone got out before Trump could sell and left him holding the bag.

[–] Wrench@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even if he sold at $1 a share, he's going to get far more than its worth out of it.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

Yep. It's just another scam. Someone has to want to buy it from him. Those people will be left with something worthless, and Trump will walk away with their money.

Not unlike how he's made a lot of his other money.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So when the timer runs out, will Trump sell his shares at a huge loss, or will the stock “magically” rally before he sells?

[–] Andonyx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sadly there is no loss for him real or on paper. He only donated his name and usage rights to the company, any actual value came from suckers, and other REP. grifters. Even if each share is a cent by the time he sells, it's still just profit for him.

Now, if other shareholders could come together and agree that he acted against their interests, THEN he could conceivably lose money in a resulting suit.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Unless nobody buys and the company debts are more than assets. In which case its worthless and he bankrupts another company.

Currently its burning through a lot of money with minimal income, despite not developing their own software.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

But the lock-ups are set to expire as soon as Sept. 20, at which point Trump may choose to start selling his shares.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

The 2024 United States presidential election will be the 60th quadrennial presidential election, set to be held on Tuesday, November 5, 2024.

So he can start to dump it a month-and-a-half before Election Day.

This should be interesting.

I'd sort of imagine that if I were a True Believer who had put a lot of my money into Trump Media on the promise that Trump was going to make me rich, I might be a little irked if Trump bails out.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I seriously doubt almost any of the goons or money launderers or bribers that bought the stock have done so thinking they'll make much - or any - money.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

It’s going to be a race to the bottom as we approach 9/20. If he keeps tanking in the polls (he will) then so will the stock price.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

that is what Devin Nunes is up to these days? What an insufferable urinal cake of a human.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

How's his cow, tho?

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What a loser. I don’t want presidential candidates that can’t find growth in their companies. What a basement dweller. Sad.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[–] Doom@ttrpg.network -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Buy in now in a month or so it'll bounce at least a little and you'll make slight profit

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A month is when the lockup period for Trump ends. He may sell like 60% of the company.

Price ain't gonna go up if the primary owner liquidates.

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network -5 points 2 months ago

It will go up and then he will sell and it will go back down. It won't go up when he sells. He's going to get it to pump