Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
Things that most Americans encounter:
Things that very few Americans encounter
This guy is a fucking clown.
Because people burning flags is a common occurrence and is a big deal. /s
He's drowning in his own bs and grasping at anything, just anything, to try to stay relevant. /not s
It's dumber than that.
Flag burning was a big deal in the 60s. I remember calls for a Constitutional amendment gaining traction back in the 90s (maybe 80s?). The controversy was all over the news for some time and the right considered your take on it to be the litmus test of "true American."
Trump's reaching decades into the past, for what it currently a non-issue. It's not desperation, it's senility.
Based on this logic I guess we should see Harris campaigning on ERA any day now...
(Long wait)
(Checks watch)
It actually is a common occurrence, since the U.S. Flag Code specifies that burning is the preferred method of disposing of flags that are no longer fit to display.
The US flag code literally calls for the flag to be burned when it's no longer fit to display:
The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
Yes, but ceremoniously is the intent. I've done many flag retirements. These flag burnings he's referring to are as a message, which is totally fine and protected by the constitution, but it isn't dignified. It's not supposed to be. It wouldn't send the same message if it were.
people care too much about symbols
Symbols are an effective way to manipulate people emotionally. It provides people with an identity making it feel like they are fighting for their own ideals and not someone else's.
First ammendment? Never heard of it.
*ammmendment
ammmmendmmenmemt
The argument I've heard is that The Founding Fathers could have never had any idea that people today would be so terrible.
The Founding Fathers saw statues of the King pulled down and British flags burned.
They knew all about destroying symbols and didn't put anything about it in the Constitution for a reason.
I suspect that broadcast and social media has poisoned the people.
Yup.
It's political speech. Trump wants to cancel the First Amendment.
As an American, if there is a law that says I am not allowed to burn a flag, I will go to the store, buy every flag available, and burn them all.
First amendment = best amendment
I'm an Amendment-to-Be,
Yes, an Amendment-to-Be,
And I'm hopin' that they'll ratify me.
There's a lot of flag burners
Who have got too much freedom,
I wanna make it legal
For policemen to beat 'em.
'Cos there's limits to our liberties,
Least I hope and pray that there are,
'Cos those liberal freaks go too far.
"Why can't we just make a law against flag burning?"
"Because that law would be unconstitutional. But if we change the Constitution—"
"Then we could make all sorts of crazy laws!"
"Now you're catchin' on!"
(Turns out you don't need to change the Constitution, you just have corrupt Supreme Court Justices pull "interpretations" out of their ass.)
you pledge allegiance to the flag! Which is made in china!
If we respect the flag so much, then apply the same penalties to those stupid Blue Lives matter flags, the flags with Trump’s ugly face on them, or any of the other MAGA crap that desecrates the flag.
/no, this is not serious, and no, burning a flag should absolutely not be a punishable offense
This is a good opportunity for compromise. Let's all agree to burn confederate flags instead.
He has no clue what it takes to amend the Constitution.
Gonna get carpal tunnel pandering this hard, Donny
naw. the people he's dictating to are gonna get carpel tunnel.
which is a shame because they've got to be pretty good at taking dictations to keep up with his shit.
After long enough, stroking anything is gonna give you carpal tunnel. Ego and conservative ideals included.
MAGA is more about mental gymnastics than dictations, to be fair.
But y'all are probably right on both points. Have you seen how much Trump posts on Truth Social? He's probably had Carpel Tunnel for YEARS!
Who gives a shit about this issue other than weirdos?
Plenty of normal people care about this, but they're authoritarians if they actually support this policy.
What "normal people" care about burning a flag?
A lot of them are veterans and older immigrants
Where is your evidence for this?
So since my uncle who is a vet and because he cares about the flag he is a weirdo?
If he cares about it enough to want a law preventing people from burning it? Yes.
Completely anecdotal, to be fair. I've seen some videos of veterans as well as first generation immigrants complaining about the desecration of the flag.
Then I stand by my position that the people who give a shit about this are weirdos. Because, believe it or not, being a veteran or an immigrant doesn't shield you from being a weirdo.
Who is even burning flags anyway?
The Boy Scouts burn a lot of flags.
Because that’s how you’re supposed to (reverently) dispose of one.
Pro Palestinians/Hamas supporters do it occasionally, but you make a good point, it doesn't happen all that often
As the planet is turning into a hostile desert, as the wealth divide is reaching new highs, as people are dying while trying to jump through hoops imposed by their health insurance to get the life saving treatment that they need, as people working 40+ hours a week can't afford rent for themselves, let alone raise a family, as conglomerates are abusing the crap of their dominant position on the markets, as autocraties are feeling emboldened to use violence to impose their will on the free world, finally, we can count on Trump to really be connected with the people and know what their concerns really are.
That’s against free speech
What is it the late 90s again? We're being inundated with this bullshit?
Yet I would gladly eat a flag myself, had I not used my intestine as a rope to hoist a flag made of my own skin, if it would protect the freedoms of the proud people who salute that flag.
Freedom such as polygamy.
It should be jailable offence to desecrate it by branding it with his shitty name in faux-gold and profiting from it when he's a treasonous fuck