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First of all. This is not another "how do I exit vim?" shitpost.
I've been using (neo)vim for about two years and I started to notice, that I,m basically unable to use non-vim editors. I do not code a lot, but I write a lot of markown. I'd like to use dedicated tools for this, but their vim emulators are so bad. So I'm now stuck with my customized neovim, devoid of any hope of abandoning this strange addiction.
Any help or advice?
Why would you wanna quit if vim works for you?
Plus vim can be an amazing markdown editor with a few dedicated plugins.
Yes, it is amazing, but some things ( like md tables or writing katex eqations) are handled rough. And I still sometimes need to use something other than vim and then life gets hard.
That's why for tables and katex equations I used plugins to help me with then to not be rough.
As for other stuff than vim, minimize the nees for them if it really gets hard.
Also, some tools have plugins to provide vim controls for them.
I know at least and use these:
There are probably more...
What plugins can you recommend?
I think the only markdown plugin I've used was for table alignment.
Mkdnflow is the one that I used to use and it does so many things amazingly for writting markdown easier
I'll check it out. Right now my wiki workflow consists of homemade scripts, which have some sharp corners.
You can exit vim but you can never quit
Why do you want stop using Vim in the first place? That would be a good information to have, to give help. What dedicated tools do you mean? What do they offer that you miss in Vim? If you just hate Vim and want stop using it no matter what, the only solution is to uninstall it, to not fall into those habits of using it everywhere. Over time you should get used to those other editors and tools.
Accept your fate. VIM is love. VIM is life.
Switch to GUI editors with Word-like navigation. You will struggle but eventually your vim habits will fade away and then you will be able to use any editor with slightly various levels of performance.
The trick is do the opposite, namely bring vim everywhere, e.g using Tridactyl you can bring some behaviors to the browser and, in this very textarea from lemmy, if I press Ctrl+i I get gvim, when I exit it, the content is back in the textarea and I can reply. Vim everywhere.
Build a small EMP device. Figure out how to trigger it from terminal. Delete the key bindings for vim. Map them to the trigger you have for the EMP.
… good luck..?
Use doom emacs
The real question is how to make everything a modal editor.
You could consider markdown extensions that helps you write and visualize!
Like this one: https://github.com/MeanderingProgrammer/render-markdown.nvim
Get a thinkpad or a keyboard with a trackpoint. Your life gets a little bit better.
I rarely even use my trackpoint ngl
How about obsidian.md? It's based on markdown, so edit mode has lots of keybindings, and there are all sorts of javascript plugins to add functionality.
And it also has vim support. You can't escape.
Haha, I wouldn't expect anything less. But I don't need to install the plugin...well...maybe I'll just try it out for a few...danmit.
Trying using Nano for absolutely EVERYTHING for a few weeks. That'll help.
Personally, the only thing that would help me for is if I wanted to kill myself
Nano works just fine for me
I have no issues with it. It's Kryptonite to the nonsensical world of VI(m) users though.
Do you just need to write markdown? Plenty of text editors have a vim mode. Not sure if there's any lightweight ones that do the markdown preview alongside a vim mode; I know IntelliJ-based IDEs have a vim mode and can preview markdown, but that's not exactly a lightweight solution, and only the community edition is open source.
But also what exactly is it you're looking for that Vim can't do? I use Vim for writing pretty much everything. I use Vim for markdown and it works fine. Markdown is already pretty readable as a text file so I don't feel the need for a previewer or anything like a rich text editor (but also there are plenty of markdown editors out there if you just want to edit markdown in a RTE).
I don't know understand why you need markdown, but if you are so used to vim motions why not switch to latex instead. You wouldn't have to worry about katex support as well. This is an advice solely based on your need for katex support without understanding your needs.
Some IDE's have a VIM mode.
This is what I do. The IDEA tools (InteliJ, PyCharm, etc.) have pretty good vim support.
i just use vim plugins in the other editors i use.
kate has a vim mode,
vs code has a vim plugin.
intellij has a vim plugin.
obsidian has a vim mode.
a lot of editors have vim modes.
if you have a current non vim markdown editor,
try looking for a vim mode.
if you dont, obsidian is all about markdown,
and vs code has a markdown preview plugin.
You save and shut down, silly.
Take vim with you to something with a lot more features!
I use vscode with vim plugin/key bindings lol
I've been trying with helix bindings for code recently, used to use the neovim plugin
I find both too laggy/slow to start up/buggy personally, feels like I'm fighting with the editor sometimes
The helix plugin is pretty good but not customisable and I'm not using the default scheme
Just run vigor.
Find breaker box pull down big switch
Find a therapist
I alternate between helix and vim depending on the task, and their key bindings are kind of opposite from each other in a lot of ways. I've found that switching back and forth has kept me on my toes a bit and I don't feel as locked in to one editor as I did with vim before trying helix.
So I’m now stuck with my customized neovim, devoid of any hope of abandoning this strange addiction.
I would also try getting used to the defaults or a minimal config, which is also a good way to feel at home in the editor regardless of the system
You have to practice switching between neovim and other editors.
You have forgotten how to use a normal editor. I am not making it up, it is a real phenomenon. Similar to when SmarterEveryDay learned to ride a backwards bicycle he forgot how to ride a normal bicycle and essentially had to re-learn it. You have to re-learn how to use a normal editor.
:q!
I don't know if this will work for you, and I'm not sure if you're only looking for TUI editors, but Obsidian has vi key bindings and a lot of plugins.
Disclaimer: I have not tried the vi key bindings in Obsidian.
Another one I use is vscode. It has a ton of markdown plugins and vi key bindings. It also has a nice preview window.
Obsidian should not be suggested for general use without the disclaimer that you have to pay if you use it for any work in most cases (unless you work for a very small place or a non-profit). I think their license is probably one of the most unintentionally violated around, kind of can’t believe they’re on flathub.
Commercial use means using Obsidian for revenue-generating or work-related activities within a for‑profit organization that has two or more employees. Government departments and agencies are considered commercial use, unless registered as a non-profit organization.
Excellent point. I had forgotten about this. I work for a non profit so I'm ok, but yes you should absolutely check the terms of the license before using. On the upside, almost everything is markdown files in regular folders, so you can fall back to vim anytime.