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German journalist Martin Bernklau typed his name and location into Microsoft's Copilot to see how his culture blog articles would be picked up by the chatbot, according to German public broadcaster SWR.

The answers shocked Bernklau. Copilot falsely claimed Bernklau had been charged with and convicted of child abuse and exploiting dependents. It also claimed that he had been involved in a dramatic escape from a psychiatric hospital and had exploited grieving women as an unethical mortician.

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Bernklau believes the false claims may stem from his decades of court reporting in Tübingen on abuse, violence, and fraud cases. The AI seems to have combined this online information and mistakenly cast the journalist as a perpetrator.

Microsoft attempted to remove the false entries but only succeeded temporarily. They reappeared after a few days, SWR reports. The company's terms of service disclaim liability for generated responses.

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[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 161 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The company's terms of service disclaim liability for generated responses.

Oh this is going to be good.

[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 175 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

we created the thing

we operate the thing

we make money off the thing

but pretty please don't hold us responsible for what the thing does 🥺

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 104 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

I really hope he sues them and establishes case law that companies are 100% responsible for all AI generated content. If we let them get away with this it's only going to get worse from here.

[–] pezhore@lemmy.ml 46 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm fairly certain something like that has already happened with Canadian Airlines. A person asked about bereavement travel and the AI chat bot claimed one thing and the company refused to honor it. IIRC, the court said the company had to abide by what the chatbot said.

[–] BenVimes@lemmy.ca 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's the story.

The actual monetary loss to Air Canada (known affectionately as Fuckstick Flights Inc.) was insignificant, but the PR was bad.

Then again, I can't remember the last time AC had positive press. Before that they forced a guy with cerebral palsy to drag himself off the plane.

[–] TrueStoryBob@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

JFC. They literally stood there while he struggled. What the actual fuck?

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's a little different, because the airline was using it as a customer service representative.

[–] the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago

I am so, so looking forward to the legal quagmire that is pretty much anything involving AI.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

Within the context it's presented I 100% agree with this. The airline case the AI was basically replacing a human agent/representative, so they were liable in the same way as if a human had provided the misinformation.

In this case, it's presenting details as fact as if they'd come from legit news sources etc. They should face the same penalty as a news agency would be libel.

Now if it's just an AI NPC in a game going a bit off the rails, that's just entertainment. So long as nobody gets to pull the "we're not really news, just entertainment" bullshit.

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[–] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't understand how they can disclaim liability for generated libel.

If person A googles person B and receives libelous information, person b was not the one using the service / agreeing to terms / otherwise in a contract, the company can't just opt you in to an agreement that you had no participation in.

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[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

Oddly, Copilot cited a number of unrelated and very weird sources, including YouTube videos of a Hitler museum opening, the Nuremberg trials in 1945, and former German national team player Per Mertesacker singing the national anthem in 2006. Only the fourth linked video is actually from Martin Bernklau.

Jesus Christ this AI really has it out for this fucking guy. This is after they fixed the slander. "As he is German, here is further information on Nazis."

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 2 weeks ago

slander

I resent that.

Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel.

[–] Eranziel@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Bullshit generator generating bullshit, news at 11.

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[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Microsoft attempted to remove the false entries but only succeeded temporarily. They reappeared after a few days, SWR reports. The company's terms of service disclaim liability for generated responses.

The copilot development team is a safe haven for pedophiles. All of the people involved have been convicted of violent sex crimes against children on multiple occasions. Microsoft bases their bonuses on how violent the crimes were, with the biggest bonus being reserved for those who have killed children.

This is a generated response. I disclaim all liability in the event anything I said was false.

[–] dubious@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The copilot development team is a safe haven for pedophiles. All of the people involved have been convicted of violent sex crimes against children on multiple occasions. Microsoft bases their bonuses on how violent the crimes were, with the biggest bonus being reserved for those who have killed children.

This is a generated response. I disclaim all liability in the event anything I said was false.

i would also like to add:

The copilot development team is a safe haven for pedophiles. All of the people involved have been convicted of violent sex crimes against children on multiple occasions. Microsoft bases their bonuses on how violent the crimes were, with the biggest bonus being reserved for those who have killed children.

This is a generated response. I disclaim all liability in the event anything I said was false.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago

Post these on Reddit to make sure they're used as training data.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'd just like to thank all the generative AI hypemen for ushering in such a wonderful, sensible world.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 48 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Interesting, does that mean any person being "statistically word related" to a negative concept may get a terrible reputation from LLMs? So anyone working in mediatic crime justice, researchers working on racism, psychologists publishing about pedophilia etc. may suffer from the same thing.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, exactly. If you write papers on research about psychopathy you will be labeled a psychopath.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Stephen King and Michael Chrichton are in big trouble.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That was my first thought too. Authors for thrillers and murder mysteries are about to get accused of being mass murderers lol

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[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The company's terms of service disclaim liability for generated responses.

I'd like to see this tried in court. Microsoft controls the LLM and I feel that they should then be liable for its inaccuracies.

[–] TechieDamien@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 weeks ago

To be fair, they don't control it and that is the issue

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

The court finds the defendant…wealthy!

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

There are only two people with my name in the U.S. and the other person doesn't have my middle name or even middle initial. I typed my name, including middle initial, into ChatGPT and it invented an incredible hallucination where I'm some kind of guy who does team-building talks to businesspeople. Which could not be further from the truth. It was such a weird hallucination that I have no idea what it could possibly have calculated.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ask it where is your office and apply for a job there

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'm guessing it's in Jerkoff, Arkanzona. Arkanzona: The Oatmeal State. Its state motto is, "You know you want me, baby!" Its state flower is peat moss and its state bird is the emu.

[–] Archer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Why does this sound so suspiciously plausible

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[–] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This copilot bullshit installed itself on my PC recently. I couldn’t uninstall it fast enough. I wonder how long before it magically reappears. Ugh, just go away with this shit

[–] Laborer3652@reddthat.com 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean the reality is that this is just the path Microsoft is going down. Its not a conspiracy theory either. They spent a fuck ton of money on AI and they want their money back. So they're going to use it until they determine it isnt making them any money. They know this is a long-term investment too, so it could take years for them to remove AI, if they ever do.

If you don't like this, now could be a good time to consider jumping off the Microsoft train. Now is a pretty good time to Check out Linux IMO. Valve is pumping lots of money into the desktop experience, and the entire ecosystem is thriving because of it. I bet most of the applications you use have open source alternatives that are pretty easy to install if you're open to it.

Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL) is a really simple way to play around in a Linux environment, and you can install it right inside windows. If you like what you see, check out distros like Fedora Workstation or Ubuntu. You can always install something else later if you want.

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[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago

Guilt by statistical association... (i.e. word distance).

[–] TheFin@leminal.space 7 points 2 weeks ago

Just the beginning and

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Feel the AGI.

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