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[–] Moops@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago

It really is such a perfect juxtaposition of toxic vs. healthy masculinity.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

A month ago, i didn't even know the name Tim Walz. Now, I'm absolutely enamored. How the hell did the Dems have someone like this on a shelf? Are they hiding more?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

What im confused about, as a non American, is how Tim seems to have overshadowed Harris. I heard about Tim way more than Harris. Is it sexist? Is it just that his more charismatic? I've never seen so much press about a vice president candidate before.

[–] odium@programming.dev 10 points 2 weeks ago

Based on their DNC speeches, Waltz is a much better public speaker than Harris.

[–] match@pawb.social 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

it's also mere novelty, as harris has been the vice president for years now

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I've literally never heard of Harris doing anything before being nominated. There's no comparison.

[–] match@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well, certainly, if all goes well the vice president isn't a particularly interesting position to talk about outside out of the country. it'd be like if we heard about germany's vice chancellor - the only reason we'd get that news in America is if something went very wrong

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But we go back to my question then, is Harris really so boring that most news since he was nominated are about him, her name being mentioned in passing? Could be my bias, as I don't actively follow American politics on purpose.

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As an American: delightfully yes. Harris and Walz are running on the promise of peace and being generally charming and charismatic in the way any other country might expect of a politician, in contrast to the memory of Trump spawning two or three new disasters a month

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Here's to a boring 4 years then 🍻

[–] match@pawb.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

may you live in boring times!

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Traditionally the VP is the person that goes on the attack so the Presidential candidate can be above that... and be presidential.

Trump flipped it since he has nothing except for making childish attacks. But that's not actually the norm.

Social media has a tendency to elevate people going on the attack, so Walz doing the normal VP stuff is being elevated more than Harris is staying above it for the most part.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was Harris on the attack during Biden's first campaign?

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago

Sure. But Trump was kinda sucking all the air out of the room, so no one saw it.

[–] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It’s because he’s an Everyone’s ideal grandpa / father

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's because he's the most progressive politician to get within spitting distance of the Presidency since Al Gore.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup. Having to constantly defer to dead slave masters because they're "founding fathers" and always wanting some old fuddy duddy as president.

There's a tendency towards political daddy issues everywhere, but the US is more extreme than most countries.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Walz seems to have more “progressive cred” than Harris does. Before Biden dropped out, I don’t think there was alot of enthusiasm for Harris (myself included), as she’s been a pretty lackluster VP, just really hasn’t done much of anything. Until recent times though, this was pretty par for the course for VPs, I don’t think anyone expected much from them, but in the last 20 years or so we’ve been having some “consequential” VPs (Cheney, Biden, Pence), so now she seemed like an under-achiever in comparison.

Walz is seemingly a real progressive who is a down-to-earth, folksy, midwestern Dad type, just a really upstanding guy, so I think the more activist elements of the Left are excited about him being on the ticket in a way they wouldn’t have been with just Harris. Though I don’t know that either has really taken a hard stand against Israel, so that doesn’t sit well with alot of folks.

[–] odium@programming.dev 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://casar.house.gov/

I'm a fan of my house Rep. Here's a recent interview, try to ignore the clickbait title: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVlKSdUNu_M

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Same, I keep hearing good things about him. I mean the guy was a chronic Dreamcast player for awhile, there are dozens of us! What’s not to love?

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 weeks ago

There's nothing masculine about MAGA. MAGA is consumed by people who think being crass is strength. These people know nothing about strength. They have never needed it because they have never faced adversity themselves. The ultimate failure of privilege.

All these people have left is larping some fictional version of masculinity and strength.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He makes me want to get a rifle and start practicing shooting, and also advocate for common sense gun reforms. Well, I'm already advocating for that, but it'll have more impact if I own a rifle.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

special ed

You know, before this wouldn't bother me. But after the treatment Tim Walz's son, Gus, has received for crying on national television with pride in his father, I find this really rubs me the wrong way.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

When u right u right