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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 185 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Dude can't build cars that don't fall apart when they get wet, and can't build a truck that doesn't fall apart for uh, existing, and we're supposed to let him stick stuff in our brains?

No, thanks, but no.

[–] vahtos@programming.dev 107 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Let's not forget an important distinction here. This man is not making any of these things, and he isn't capable of making them. But, he is capable of directly and indirectly impacting the people who are capable of making them negatively enough that we get utter failures like the cybertruck.

Don't give him more credit than he deserves.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Also important:

This tech has been around for about 25 years already, first success was 1998...

Johnny received his implants in March 1998. During a 12-hour operation, Bakay inserted the electrodes, housed in two glass cones, into the area of Johnny's cortex that controls left-hand movement. Once the cones were implanted, the doctors believed that axons -- parts of the brain cell that transmit electrical impulses -- would grow through them. When an impulse passed along an axon, it would be intercepted by tiny gold contacts and transmitted through the electrodes. ''Axons are really like telephone lines,'' Kennedy explains. ''We're just diverting the lines and eavesdropping on the call.''

The hope was that by imagining he was moving his paralyzed left hand, Johnny would cause an increase in electrical impulses passing among the neurons there. These impulses could then be transmitted by the implanted electrodes to a receiver placed on Johnny's pillow, and from there, the analog brain signals could be translated into digital commands that Johnny's computer could understand. In theory, by controlling the frequency with which the neurons in his motor cortex fire, Johnny could move a cursor up or down, left or right on his screen.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/11/magazine/tech-2010-07-brainpower-making-contact-the-mind-that-moves-objects.html

Musk is just paying people to miniaturize existing tech and is using marketing to make people believe he's personally inventing it

The bad part is his absolute disregard for basic lab safety and pretty much any other regulation.

It's like how SpaceX doesn't care how many rockets explode, Musk probably views early adaptors as sacrificial lambs.

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Oh for sure: Musk can barely make a shitpost on Twitter, let alone actually do anything else.

But, conversely, he's in a position to dictate culture and policy and direction and that's led to shitty cars and whatever the fuck is going on at Twitter.

Aaaand yes, past performance is not a predictor for future outcomes, but uh, somehow I don't think it's irrelevant either.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

Don’t give him more credit than he deserves.

Banks should have listened to this when he wanted a loan to buy twitter.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Why are you saying "No, thanks, but no" when you could be saying "FUCK NO! GET OUTTA HERE WITH THE GARBAGE!"

You can even add a jersy accient if you want to be extra fun in your telling elon to fuck off.

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[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

He should be an example and do it himself.

[–] krimson@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah that's not going to happen.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How crazy would it be tho if we found out he really was an early adopter, had one put it in a decade ago, and that's why he's so bat shit now?

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 52 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Day 1 after implantation: this is great! I now have photographic memory of everything! Best decision ever.

Day 20: I've memorized so much so fast, I'm going to have to go for the next higher up subscription level to unlock more storage.

Day 200: I'm running out of space again. Going for the plus subscription.

Day 600: ran out of storage space again. I can't afford the next higher subscription. I'm going to have to start deleting unnecessary memories. My brain has lost its natural ability to make and retain memories by itself. I can't even function on a daily basis without free storage space.

Day 700: I have run out of memories that I'm willing to part away with. I still can't afford the higher subscription. Luckily there is a cheaper tier. All I have to do is give NeuraLink full access and rights over my memories for marketing and AI training purposes.

Day 900: They have increased the cost of subscription. I can't afford it. I'm going to lose half of my storage space. I have two days to choose which of my memories to keep. The rest will be no longer accessible to me, but will still be used by Neuralink for their own purposes as they own those memories now.

Day 1200: the chip will no longer be supported next month. I can't afford the new model. It will be disabled in 30 days.

Day 1235: I have just found this diary. It explains a lot. I only wished it told me what my name is.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You forgot the part where you agreed to let them harvest your organs if you fail to pay your subscription fees.

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Also, suddenly you're unable to say negative things about Elon Musk for some reason.

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[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well I’d like to implant my foot in his ass so….

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[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 49 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The only dipshits stupid enough to get Musk implants will be the same dipshits who think vaccines have mind-control trackers.

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[–] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

If he doesn’t go first no nation should allow it. Dude is a fraud.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 38 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I don't trust this guy with anything he touches. I'm a transhumanist and this technology is intriguing, but again, Elon fucking upwards Musk.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Let's give him a chip and watch for the next 5+ years how it goes, then decide how to go on.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe that's what we watched for the last 5 years?

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[–] Modva@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago

With his ethics there's no way I'd let any company controlled by him attach itself to my brain.

I have a hard time imagining that for any profit driven corporation, but most especially him.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Another weird thing that Conservatives want to do.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 35 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

While complaining that "the left" are trying to inject tracking chips into our bodies.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 weeks ago

Many of their conspiracy theories are distractions from the very real and very scary conspiracies they're actually engaged in

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Musk wanting it is more than enough reason for me to want to avoid it like the plague.

Not that I would want any sort of brain implant anyway, but Musk being involved make it even less desirable than it already was.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

After COVID we have to retire "avoid like the plague". Too many people were happy to go to plague gatherings.

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[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Made by the same guy who brought you the cyber truck , yeah, I'll pass

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[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I bet this evil fuck has all kinds of patents around this idea so when someone who isn't a psychopath James Bond villain wants to help people with disabilities by developing a similar device...they won't be able to.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Of...course he does? Maybe with an evil laugh?

Musk is essentially as close to a supervillain as IRL gets.

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I really don't understand why anyone is giving that goofball a platform.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago

nobody is giving him a platform so he had to spend $44b to buy one.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

He pays for it lol

This is 2024, you should know this.

then we circle jerk him in the comments, so we are also part of the circus

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[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 23 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

He shoulda gone first 🧠🔫

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago

They're injecting microchips! Said no antivaxx about this ever.

[–] BlitzFitz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Godspeed to all the brain dead idiots who will sign up for this, and will become even more literally brain dead after getting the implant.

[–] _bcron@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

The first patient had a bunch of wires dislodge but according to the company they're 'more or less stable' after some revisions, so it sounds like a typical Musk product ready for mass production lol

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/musks-neuralink-take-risk-mitigation-measures-with-brain-implant-2024-07-10/

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The thing he seems to have forgotten is that unlike the automotive industry where the regulation is designed to allow companies to fuck up then fix things as long as they have the systems in place to fix the fuck up and to know when they fucked up, the medical device industry is very much designed so that the default stance is "this is dangerous and will kill people" unless you can prove otherwise

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[–] Usernameblankface@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Elon wants to make more money. One of the ways he can envision making more money is selling brain implants and the procedure to install them

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

And millions of people want Elon Musk to get one himself.

[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

It would probably be wiser to implant a bullet in your brain then let that man do neurosurgery on you.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

I'd like to implant something in Elon's brain. It's called a pick-axe handle.

[–] msage@programming.dev 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Why can this loser fart in an elevator and it warrants an article?

And why are so many engaged to the point, including government, that they will listen to that? Like abandoning highspeed rail in favor of hyperloop?

Like what the fuck is going on?

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[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

New YA dystopian fiction plot entering reality.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, he can want whatever he wants, but I'm certainly not going to be one of them.

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[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And anyone stupid enough to get one deserves the brain damage that comes with it. Hell, maybe they’ll then buy Twitter and run it into the ground. Oh wait, some other moron did that.

Edit> Found the Musk sycophants :)

[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Elon musk: is inventing brain chips

People: oh okay.

Elon musk: wants people to use them

People:

[–] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I have seen the engineering failure that is the cybertruck, no thanks.

Fuuuuuuckk no.

[–] BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I would love a brain implant. I want to live in the Matrix, I want to have the Feed. Just not from him. Never from him.

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