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[–] worldwidewave@lemmy.world 144 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It would suck to be a diehard MAGA supporter, all these American brands that you constantly need to boycott. For the team that hates cancel culture, there sure is a lot of cancel culture to keep up with.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You say that as if it isn't even harder for us leftists trying to boycott Nestle (and all its subsidiary brands!), Coke (ditto), the entire fossil fuel and plastics industries, etc.

Meanwhile, it's simple for the MAGAs since it's all performative bullshit anyway: they just have to avoid the particular brand name that pissed them off (e.g. boycotting Bud Light by switching to Michelob, ignoring that it's made by the same company).

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 8 points 2 months ago

And really they only need to keep up with the latest one to keep up appearances

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait what’s wrong with Coke? Maybe I don’t want to know.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Various people boycott Coke for a bunch of different reasons (on both ends of the political spectrum, ranging from "supporting Israel" to "being woke"), but what I was thinking of when writing that is how an acquaintance boycotts them for murdering union organizers in Colombia a couple decades ago.

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

The list is long enough that it has it's own wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coca-Cola

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 7 points 2 months ago

It sounds amazing in principle for the rest of us.

I'm across the pond, but if the right wing Muppets suddenly started boycotting Costa or Cafe Nero, I'd be spending far more of my time there.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 92 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

They are acting like Dunkin made demands of the platform and tried to secretly influence them to censor their right wing podcasts. They didn't. Rumble reached out to Dunkin, at least twice it seems, begging for ad dollars, and they said "no". They gave an honest, fair and reasonable justification, that they didn't want their non-political national brand associated with extremely politically decisive right wing media, but said that if they change they will reconsider in the future. The right are butthurt because they are seen as bad for normal national brands to be associated with, which of course makes those brands evil woke brands.

This is a literal 1:1 analog of a dude constantly asking out a girl, and she says that she doesn't date men who wear MAGA hats and fly Confederate flags on their truck because it wouldn't sit well with her friends and family, but she's open to dating him if he ever stops those things. And so he calls her a stuck-up woke bitch who only fucks soyboys and wouldn't know a real man if she saw it. And then he blasts her on social media and all of his friends decide to harass her and try to get her fired from her job. It is literal the EXACT SAME THING AS THAT.

[–] commandar@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

they didn't want their non-political national brand associated with extremely politically decisive right wing media

Worth noting: Dunkin is owned by Inspire Brands, who went out of their way to toot their own horn about how they were successful in lobbying to kill inclusion of a minimum wage hike as part of COVID relief:

https://www.newsweek.com/this-fast-food-giant-bragged-about-killing-15-minimum-wage-1579273

So they're perfectly happy to take political positions; they just recognize these platforms are even more radioactive than bragging about opposing living wages for their workers.

Further, Inspire is owned by Roark Capital -- a company literally named after an Ayn Rand character. That's how far out in the loonie bin these folks are. And the MAGAs are too far over the line even for them, lol.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So they’re perfectly happy to take political positions

That was quite the dick move, but genuinely asking: why is that move considered political? I'd say it's an evil corporatism move.

[–] Rev3rze@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

You're right there. It's got fuck all to do with politics and everything to do with squeezing as much money out of their run on this planet. Also the reason they won't take certain political positions but easily do so when it might lead to more profits.

[–] commandar@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

why is that move considered political?

Political lobbying is kind of inherently political, no? They weren't passive observers or commentators; they hired lobbyists to influence the legislative outcome.

Actively working to shape the legal structure of the country to better suit their company is politics. It's different from culture war politics, but it's still politics.

If anything, economic politics are what traditionally drove a lot of the political divide in this country. That's taken a back seat to a degree, but it hasn't made it not political.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You're right. If they used our political system for their benefit, then yes, it was a political move.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Smells like bullshit to me. Why would an ad agent give an explanation of rejection to a request for advertising? Do they do this? If so, why do they do this?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Wouldn't shock me if they just got turned down without explanation and the dude decided to put words into their mouths as to why. Either way, though, it doesn't make Dunkin look bad. It just makes their reaction look bad.

Leave it to the right to select a centralized, javascript-addled, Google-tagged abomination as a platform. World's smallest violin when they inevitably get censored in some capacity.

[–] ryper@lemmy.ca 40 points 2 months ago

But remember, advertisers boycotting XTwitter is horrible and illegal and mean and against the First Amendment.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I live in Massachusetts. There are a lot of working class people that support Trump in our state, but if you ask them to choose between Dunks and Trump, it's not gonna end well for Trump.

[–] mriormro@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 months ago

"Dunkin Donuts about to become maga free zone that serves food and drink"

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean, cool they won't have to deal with magats but I still don't really like the company, they frequently open up shops right next to the Cambodian mom and pop shops to try and oust them. They aren't usually successful since the family run places operate at 1/5 the cost but it's still shady business practices.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Could be worse.

A while ago there was a wonderful little mom-and-pop chocolate shop/cafe ten minutes' walk from my house. They had four different versions of hot chocolate on the menu, at different levels of strength, and the chocolates in their display case were handmade in the store -- you could see from the ordering queue straight into the kitchen -- and they were just to die for. See's and Ghirardelli could only dream of making chocolates that good. It was a great little place we would all go for a treat.

A few years ago now, a new Starbucks opened up in that same strip mall. It was less than a quarter mile from another Starbucks in an indoor mall, but that one didn't have a drive-thru, you see, so they needed another. One of the conditions of Starbucks accepting the lease was that there wouldn't be any other high-end cafés in the area, so the city, seeing dollar signs, doubled the chocolate shop's rent. They were out of business before the year was out.

I'm still mad about that.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'd say that's a good reason to be mad. It's also weird, the demand around here would be for the mom and pop shops over any chain. But if the corpos get to cheat with backhanded deals with the city, not much you can do about it.

I recently moved to an area with mostly chains but it's slowly changing. People on nextdoor are bitter (and honestly pretty awful) about it, like "oh no, my liquor store turned into a coffee shop, the world has gone to shit."

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Too bad their donuts are terrible and I’m not a customer anyway, otherwise I’d be happy that there are fewer fanatical racists to deal with.

[–] theedqueen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I tried their coffee for the first time and it sucked. Shame because there’s one down the street from me so it’d be super convenient to do coffee runs.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Dunks isn't about coffee or quality. It's about ... Dunks. Go fack youahself.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I make my own every morning at 5:45 so I don't stop.

Time to stop in and grab a bag of blueberry muffin.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I'm gonna get treats for the whole office.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

How do I get them to boycott my grocery store, gas station and... well... the entire city?

[–] JimSamtanko@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

A MAGAless dunks is even better!

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago

two people stop going

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

The nearest dunkin donuts from where I live is 90 minutes away by interstate. Its in one of the bluest parts of the state so good luck maga chumps.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Wait. So we can go into a Dunkin Donuts without meeting MAGA people? Hell, I'm gluten free and I'm starting to consider it.

[–] ArgentRaven@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

A broken clock is right twice a day - I won't really bother to find out why they won't go to DD, but I'm already boycotting them because their donuts suck and their coffee isn't as good as my local coffee shop.

Donut is in their name, and they can't even have fresh ones made? Lazy and greedy corpos run that place.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

Call whatever you want woke and boycott anything you want to, that's your prerogative. However, it seems that this is yet another case of MAGA supporters taking rejection personally, and the brand not giving the rightwing ad platform dollars hurt their feelings.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Make sure not to drink any @dunkindonuts

-Steven Crowder

Drink? I'm not entirely sure Crowder knows what a donut is.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is much more profit in coffee vs donuts.

Dunkin donuts even tried to rebrand as Dunkin's and had a ad campaign about its coffee for a while.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So many people told me their coffee is really good. I never had that experience

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I'm a coffee snob. It's 100% not the best coffee but it's consistent, cheap and accessible.

Aroma joes is damn good coffee tho