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[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  1. Win 11 sucks
  2. Win 10 is still supported for another year
[–] db2@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago

Win10 sucks but Win11 manages to suck harder. And neither in the good way.

[–] style99@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago

As someone who uses Win 11, I can confirm that it sucks.

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Win 10 LTS is a 10 year license, Win 11 LTS 5 years. There's your answer.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Damn. Bastards.

Tells us all we need to know though.

LTSC costs, wish I could convince more clients to spend the money. A 10 year license!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How much more expensive is the 11 licences, too?

[–] neshura@bookwormstory.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately I don't know, I only heard about the support duration from one of our systems IT guys. Even if it isn't more expensive (or even if it's cheaper) companies will prefer the longer license because IT staff migrating these machines costs a lot of money (and sometimes the migration isn't without problems which costs even more) so they try to minimize the frequeny of migrations as much as possible.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Ive been out of touch with that stuff for awhile, which why I asked. Just the shorter duration is ridiculous, I'm assuming that's the tip of the iceberg.

[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

According to the official Microsoft website, the Windows 11 LSTC version still gives a 10-year license.

Link

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 33 points 1 month ago

Because there's no discernable benefits. Few applications, if any, require Windows 11. The average desk worker gets new-software-paralysis any time there's an interface change. Windows 10 is still viable and receiving updates.

The better question is: Why would companies switch?

[–] shani66@ani.social 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Windows 11 went full mask off on how bad Windows really is, why would anyone use it? No one wants adware, ransomware, or spyware on their pc, let alone have it baked in.

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

^ this is the answer I was about to give

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 month ago

Wtf? None of my systems can be upgraded. Win11 is a huge artificial hardware upgrade push with bullshit minimum requirements that prevent an install from even occurring. Not that I feel like I'm missing out. It is a shitshow of an OS.

[–] charonn0@startrek.website 21 points 1 month ago

I'm not upgrading because I don't trust Windows 11. Not that 10 has my confidence, of course, but 11 seems worse.

[–] Boozilla@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

My Win 10 laptop wouldn't install Win 11, so I upgraded to Linux. Hoping there's many more like me.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does anyone else remember when Microsoft claimed windows 10 would be the last windows? Probably more than half the applications I use for work do not work properly on a machine running windows 11. We know this because we tried. A controlled rollout ended in a roll back to windows 10 for the company I work for. It's not that difficult to understand. Something about weird aspect ratios in our legacy software (that we are required to use) making drop downs and clickable buttons completely unviewable. We were able to use windows 8 compatibility mode on our windows 10 computers but that doesn't fix the problem on windows 11. The company that created that software isn't doing more than bug fixes and security updates for it and so this problem will never be rectified. That's why.

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

well it definitely was my last Windows 8 years ago

[–] db2@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

"Almost all" then "many" then "the majority". Does this hack know those things aren't synonyms? 🙄

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Because Windows 11 is yet another painful transition for staff who are mostly IT illiterate folk, and it easier to leave things the way they are until necessary..

[–] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Funny that it also works like it was made by mostly IT illiterate folk.

[–] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not sure how exactly this survey was conducted, here at the small business I work at only about 2% of the desktops/laptops are Win 11 compatible. And being a small business the owner isn't interested in spending the $$ on new systems until absolutely necessary.

But that's on the small business side, maybe this article is only talking about fortune 500 companies? Their results seem a bit odd to me otherwise.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I've got a few thousand PCs at work (not all mine) and we're maybe 70% compatible. I've been doing a lot of reprioritizing upgrades to get those ones done before daddy IT security compliance starts looking critically at us.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Our point of sale software doesn't work with it. So they blocked the update until it does.

[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I read this article title as "Top 11 ways to get your entire IT department to ragequit".

[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 month ago
[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No idea. Our company went full Win 11 since almost all of our systems are browser based and everyone is on modern laptops. I don’t really have an issue with Win 11 itself over Win 10. Outlook being buggy is honestly more annoying day to day.

That said, if IT would let me use a MacBook I’d switch instantly. It’s inexcusable to have to wait 10 seconds or more for my laptop to wake up in 2024. WTH Microsoft.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago

Until last year they made the task bar for the computer illiterate (ie Mac/gnome users). Thankfully they fixed that.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

There are a shit ton of reasons to not migrate to windows 11. I'll summarize it like the rest, it sucks balls. For example, let's...oh hey! Look my wife had a baby! Ok let's take a screenshot!...and we're waiting!... She's in highschool now, really good student...an we're waiting.... Oh yeah she's mostly at the boyfriends now since graduating from Harvard....and we're waiting....she had 3 kids and a career in wild life photography until the republicans killed the last elephant....and we're waiting....I'm sorry but my dad passed away yesterday, I accidentally turned off the computer, we use mind chips now anyway and they all run gnu Linux. Good day all!