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[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

How dumb does one have to be to intentionally drop support for the hottest game console of the year?!

It boggles my mind.

Also, as a non-pirate (by laziness, not by conviction), I feel like I'm being offered an eye patch, a hook and a parrot every time I interact with a AAA game publisher.

Edit: I keep half expecting EA or Capcom to publish a press release outlining their favorite ways to obtain their games without paying, in order to work-around their own bullshit DRM. It's bizarre that they really think this crap is helping them.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think they just got tired of everyone hating Blizzard and Sony, and decided to remind us all that we used to hate EA the most.

[–] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm curious if they still have the most downvoted comment on Reddit.

Edit: Yep.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Jesus, and by an entire order of magnitude, too. I forgot about that.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yet another proof that Proton is a great stop-gap solution but Valve should be pushing game publishers to make native Linux ports.

[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If a company isn't willing to support steam deck/Linux through an easier support option like proton, I highly doubt they'll be willing to support it with higher effort native ports.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As a hardcore Linux fan, the only way I see game devs publishing native Linux ports is when when it has a >30% market share.

But I'm pretty sure the publishers will still come up with excuses like "The Linux platform is uncontrollable; there is no way to verify the platform integrity because everyone has root"

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

As a hardcore Linux fan, the only way I see game devs publishing native Linux ports is when when it has a >30% market share.

For Valve Linux isn't just another OS. It's their Steam Deck platform which they could promote towards publishers the same way as console makers promote their platforms. This story once again shows that chasing Windows compatibility without using Windows is a stepping stone but not the final answer.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The cost to maintain "native" ports is too high to make sense for most developers.

PS: Proton also makes it easier to preserve games since an "native" port would become incompatible overtime without work to adapt the software to changes in the system it's running.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The cost to maintain “native” ports is too high to make sense for most developers.

If that was the case, no console ports would exist, except maybe Xbox because Xbox uses modified Windows internally.

Proton also makes it easier to preserve games since an “native” port would become incompatible overtime without work to adapt the software to changes in the system it’s running.

Inform yourself what Steam Linux Runtime is before making such comments. You are 100% wrong.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If that was the case, no console ports would exist, except maybe Xbox because Xbox uses modified Windows internally.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18845205

[–] proton_lynx@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

How fucking idiot would you have to be to complain about users sending bug reports. Linux users usually send very detailed bug reports, which can uncover bugs that might happen on all platforms.

[–] jukibom@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

auto reported crashes

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes Linux users generate great reports because they care and usually are more knowledgeable.

But treat the reports cost time and work, and usually this problems will not happen for the majority of their use base.

So, as the company, you can have 0.1% of your sales generating 20% of extra work that will not benefit 99.9% of the users. It is easier and cheaper to cut that group (us Linux users) instead of support.

[–] doona@aussie.zone 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Surely there isn’t that big of a cheating problem in a fucking rally driving video game, to the point where you need ring 0 anti cheat?

Regardless, this rise in invasive anti cheat is getting seriously annoying. I hope the right person gets pissed off and finds a way to make them run on Linux for the sake of the rest of the community, but even still, I’ll continue to play single player experiences and leave my mental health intact.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every single version of DiRT Rally has MASSIVE cheating problems

Really spoiled the online stages

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Really spoiled the online stages

And now this change spoils single player.

[–] kaputter_Aimbot@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

While neither EA nor Steam ever said anything about support for Linux or the Steam Deck (the store page stated unsupported), it's still a dick move inserting kernel level ~~antichrist~~ anticheat MONTHS after release, altering the deal and making the product a security and privacy nightmare!

Also a really bad business decision to scare future buyers away, with Linux gaming gaining traction thanks to Steam Deck and the likes.

I personally won't buy anything from EA going forward and stick to my statement from the games Steam forum:

Another reason to just wait before buying a game, especially from large corpo publishers like EA!
Releasing unfinished, buggy games for prices north of 60 bucks AND "altering the deal" MONTHS later, rendering the product either unplayable or making it a security and privacy nightmare, is a big, BIG pile of BS!

Don't let the FOMO get you, learn from this.
Make your voices heard and place an appropriate review!

And by all means: try to get a refund!

...or this WILL happen again!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 1 points 5 months ago

Steam should allow you to download older versions when companies pull bullshit like this.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is the equivalent of Sony requiring PSN account in countries where no PSN account exist. Just on a different technical level, but with the same outcome. This should be illegal.

[–] RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised Valve hasn't pushed a condition about this in their contracts stating that they can get a Verified badge only if they agree to keep the Steamdeck as a supported platform.

[–] napoleonsdumbcousin@feddit.de 0 points 5 months ago

This game never was verified. It was playable despite being unsupported, which it is not anymore.