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    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 112 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    Librewolf, but I'd argue it's more of a Firefox/web debloater reason. No pocket, no VPN ads. I would have said that the only issue is that it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater and software repos, so I would almost recommend it over stock firefox for normies.

    And I use tor to search stuff that contains sensitive data like my location... Or when a website is blocked

    [–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 76 points 2 months ago (11 children)

    This is the argument I keep using for why people should use Linux more. The fact you have to run updater software for each piece of software is so stupid. It's a horrible solution to a poorly designed problem. On Linux I just tell my package manager to update everything and it takes care of it all. There's no need for the user to be handling all of that, and it also shouldn't have to update in starting the application because that's when the user wants to use it, not wait for an update.

    (For reference: it's the same thing as on your phone where it tells you the number of things that need updated and you just tell it to update whenever you feel like it.)

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    [–] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 2 months ago (8 children)

    it is a pain to update, but they added a windows updater

    the linux package manager in question

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    [–] communism@lemmy.ml 68 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Tor Browser serves a different purpose/use-case to the first two. The first two are intended for everyday browsing while I've never heard of anyone using Tor Browser as their daily browser—and if you log into websites then using Tor Browser as your daily driver would defeat the anonymity purposes if you're logging in anyway.

    I use librewolf for everyday browsing and Tor Browser for things requiring a higher threat model.

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    [–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Edge: *naked with an ad tattooed on the back*

    [–] Sarcasmo220@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Tattooed on the lower back to be more specific

    [–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    This lumbar presented by T-Mobile—We got your back!*

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    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 66 points 2 months ago

    [Richard Stallman] usually does not browse the web directly from his personal computer. Instead, he uses GNU Womb's grab-url-from-mail utility, an email-based proxy which downloads the webpage content and then emails it to the user.

    If you're not doing this you're not properly paranoid.

    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 46 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    NetCat. /s

    Seriously though, I just use Firefox. LibreWolf is basically Firefox with stricter defaults, and over the years I've already tweaked Firefox to use all the privacy features anyway.

    I know there's some extra sauce implemented in LibreWolf that Firefox lacks, but that stuff seems like too much of a compromise for me (like canvas fingerprinting).

    Plus, I think orange looks nicer in my window list than blue.

    I also don't use tor or a vpn unless I can't access anything otherwise. I guess I don't really see the need to, since I don't think I'm doing anything that'll draw the government's attention.

    [–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 29 points 2 months ago

    You can turn off canvas fingerprinting or any added feature with a single checkbox. I used to feel the same way about LibreWolf, but once I familiarized myself with the different settings, it became clearly the superior option if you value privacy. I also set my Firefox settings strictly, but then they added new “features” and turned them on by default. That was the last straw for me.

    [–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I started moving from Firefox to LibreWolf and found a few too many convenient features broke.

    I think password and bookmark syncing was too difficult to move away from, as I use them across devices/phone.

    Haven't had time to research alternative methods or practices.

    [–] XCraftMC@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 months ago

    you can enable firefox sync from the librewolf settings. that’s what i do and it works flawlessly

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    [–] LinusSexTips@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    schizofox "Hardened Firefox flake for the delusional and the schizophrenics."

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    [–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    I exclusively browse with cURL and manually parse HTML myself the old fashioned way

    [–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I migrated from firefox to librewolf AND Tor this week. Help.

    [–] MadBigote@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I saw a post earlier this week where Firefox was adding an AI to the browser? That'd make me migrate to libre wolf or water fox.

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    [–] ahornsirup 24 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Firefox. Librewolf's defaults make it very inconvenient to use as a normal, day to day web browser. You can obviously change all of that but at that point you might as well just use Firefox with a handful of add-ons so that's what I'm doing.

    [–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 41 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    I just changed my browsing habits. Frankly I've also realized having the internet be less convenient has made me more mentally healthy

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    [–] thegreenguy@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    I'm considering switching to LibreWolf after all the AI crap Mozilla is adding

    [–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Statistical analysis of a large data set is a sin, after all.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

    No it isn't. Making it opt-out by default is.

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    [–] magi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    Librewolf is great. I just add exceptions for a handful of sites I want to retain sessions for and it is very usable as a daily driver

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    [–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

    Tor Browser is this kid wearing many layers of different masks and hoodies, and changing them randomly whenever the mood strikes.

    [–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Librewolf is just a usable Firefox

    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago (22 children)

    Firefox is a completely usable Firefox.

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    [–] Emmie@lemm.ee 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I have five browsers and couple vpns and some extras that I have mix matched to create sort of tier system depending on how legal is the activity I partake in.

    Most illegal though you have to physically relocate to some unprotected hotspot by car

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    [–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Librewolf enables fingerprinting preventation which makes some websites / fields very laggy. I can disable it but what's the point of using Librewolf then? Also using FF is not paranoid, it is the only free software I installed that sticked with my family. Tor has a wholly different purpose.

    [–] communism@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago

    Also using FF is not paranoid

    Yes that's what the meme is saying.

    [–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    I don't know what Floorp makes me...

    [–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 months ago

    Picture one but in a Japanese/anime style. Wait a second

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    [–] tkk13909@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Regular firefox and tweaked

    [–] banazir@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

    Aw yeah, I also love browsing the internet on meth!

    [–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (5 children)

    does using chrome make you naked or something?

    unless it's just equivalent to firefox, which i doubt.

    [–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Internet explorer makes you naked for sure.

    Chrome maybe in swim trunks at a shopping mall. Everyone (advertisers etc) can see you and you're weirdly exposed.

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    [–] Dultas@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

    Mullvad Browser.

    [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 10 points 2 months ago

    Firefox with Tor for specific stuff

    [–] shekau@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Mull browser is decent too

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    [–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

    I would use LibreWolf IF it had cloud sync, since that's a feature I actively use with regular Firefox.

    edit: I tried LibreWolf and Waterfox. I copied over my Firefox profile to LibreWolf and Waterfox. LibreWolf works with all of my addons and even Firefox Sync and everything else, I had to disable "Enable ResistFingerprinting" to fix login on a couple sites and also had to prevent it from deleting cookies and site data when LibreWolf is closed but now it works perfectly for me, same as Firefox works perfectly for me. Waterfox has tons of issues with my addons like with uMatrix enabled it straight up just refuses to load any pages, also in general loading all pages is quite a bit slower, and one of my mail addons also has some weird corruption error message - Waterfox is unusable for me. I think LibreWolf is a great fit for me so I think I will most likely use that if I can be bothered, or maybe I will stick with Firefox, who knows, we'll see I guess. Still though, LibreWolf seems great.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Cloud sync is not for the paranoid

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    [–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    Librewolf for normal stuff, Tor for stuff I don't even want linked to my IP.

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