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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

And most of the people in power here probably ate his shit up.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

The dude compared the start of the war to 9/11. He either demonstrably or intentionally compared things that have no commonality. One group attacked in the name of extremism, twisted and misunderstood religious ideology. The other wants to eliminate a whole ethnic group because of where they live.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ehhh, it’s closer than you think. People in the Middle East hated Americans for the decades of war we brought to their land. We killed their brothers, uncles, fathers, children, etc. - it’s not hard to understand how that might cause extremist attitudes against the US. Please don’t forget or whitewash the horrible things America has done.

Palestinians hated Israel for all the same reasons, (plus several more).

In addition, a terrorist act against civilians was the instigation of both events, leading to a one-sided war obliterating the offending nation.

This in no way excuses Israel for what they are doing. Killing and starving civilians is wrong, and only serves to embolden the extremists. We know because that’s what happened to the US.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

People in the Middle East hated Americans

*Hate. We still hate America.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Understandable. Us Americans hate America as well

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

He's closer than you think, but not the way he claims.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bin-laden-palestinian-cause-prompted-9-11/

The Palestinian cause has been the main factor that, since my early childhood, fueled my desire, and that of the 19 freemen (Sept. 11 bombers), to stand by the oppressed, and punish the oppressive Jews and their allies," the al Qaeda chief said.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

This was just an exercise in manufacturing consent. He went on tv. Every part of the speech received raucous applause. The newspapers like the NYT wrote glowing headlines. And causal U.S. observers saw Israel positively; while the rest of the world watched in horror as the US government welcomed the modern day Hitler into the halls of Congress.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Lemme see if I can guess. Umm… lies, lies, and more bullshit lies? Edit: Oh, and hate speech.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

Actually all the things they checked have some sort of truth to them. But obviously omitting details is also a form of lying etc.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

They don't care if he's honest or not, all that matters is that he receives billions of dollars in aid and hands it to American billionaires in exchange for weapons.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What yamaka Hitler doesn’t always tell the truth? Do tell.

[–] Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yamaka

I think you mean Yarmulke?

Actually, according to Wikipedia that's an accepted spelling, but I've never ever seen it spelled that way before, and the source for that spelling is "jewish.shop", so I don't know.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Oh! I never realized. Maybe the spelling I used comes from people hearing it and having no idea how to spell it and eventually it became “accepted”.