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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 26 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Title is misleading, they are moving away from google services.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

Yeah I was going to say there is very little alternative from iOS and Android or its derivatives. There used to be Windows Phones very breifly, but they're gone now.

Anthing else has to emulate the other OS to run mobile apps.

[–] kepix@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

arent there mods on the sub to delete clickbait crap like this?

[–] Flemmy@lemm.ee 1 points 49 minutes ago

Google is kind of being invasive. Kind but kind of.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

USA is being horrible at the moment, but China has a LOT of convincing to do before I'll let them deliberately have my data.

Best way remains to raise as high a digital moat against everyone. If you need a smartphone, get a Pixel, install Graphene on it and as few apps as possible.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I would love getting a Pixel but the 100% price premium and no official support is making it hard.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

PostmarketOS for everyone!

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago

I really want to get to a point I can transition to using this or another mobile Linux distro. My phone is fairly (hehe, it's a Fairphone) well supported, but my impression is that basic phone features are still not functioning properly making it more of a pocket computer and less of a phone. I still need phone features. As for mobile apps, I don't have many needs and I think Waydroid will get me far.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What ever happened to that other OS that was named after a color

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago

Fuschia? That was a Google alternative to Linux that never panned out. It was weird with streams instead of files.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago

We are going to move away from Google, by basing our new future on AOSP, which is also primary maintained by Google.......I smell another FireOS level product on the horizon. Still Android, but worse.

[–] haych@feddit.uk 137 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

So that title is just a straight up lie. They want to use a de-googled Android.

To be honest I was hoping for an alternative OS, competition is always good. But a de-googled Android could possibly be good, but being Chinese I assume instead of Google telemetry you'll just be replacing it with CCP telemetry.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 hours ago

Indded but as an Australian, if I have to have an anal probe i'd rather it from the CCP as they wont share it with my Government.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean judging by the current American government id much rather my data is going to the CCP then the American Government via Google as a proxy.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Would love that if it was an option.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 hour ago

I don't know to what extent they smuggle data out of the devices, but afaik a de-googlified phone such as Pixel + GrapheneOS gets you close.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 21 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, I think a person in either nation should consider using the opposing nation's stuff. Harder for the US to backdoor Chinese encryption, or for Chinese to backdoor into an American phone. Play the bastards off each other.

Odds are, that the Trump Regime will use American apps and phones to identify and track targets for ICE traffickers. China probably does the same to Uighurs. The less attack surfaces they have, the better for their respective peoples.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Except that there are credible reports of the CCP running police operations on foreign soil.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

But what reason would they have to go after you on foreign soil? Unless you're like actively causing problems for China they're not gonna spend the effort to go after you for saying "China bad" on one of their phones. That only matters if you're in China at which point it's silencing internal discontent. The much bigger likelihood is the American government seeing you, through data Google gathers, organize against US support of Israel or any other position they start abducting people for and grabbing you off the street for it.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 18 points 20 hours ago

That sounds funny, but In that reality, the government with all its power will find a way in (they probably already have programs (as in departments) for finding their way into other countries tech).

Better to just install a proper de-googled android build (grapheneos, etc) and only use wifi (if data/phone num not needed) for the best odds.

In a couple of years (with more r&d, development and investment) I bet this will change to being use a linux phone.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Apple building backdoors for CCP and sharing any and all data with them: am I a joke to you?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

US telemetry == CCP telemetry, I can't see how CCP will be more damaging to regular person.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 12 points 20 hours ago

I think it’s just that they were saying his won’t end up benefitting us. It’s just changing who is holding the binoculars.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 35 points 19 hours ago (6 children)
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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

If it's not proper linux I don't care

[–] cauthon117@lemmy.zip 1 points 36 minutes ago

German brand Volla has phones with Ubuntu Touch. Even allows dual boot with their own degoogled Android OS. Might be worth checking out.

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 23 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

A rumor of plans??! Tell me everything!!!

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Gurl let me spill the tea, there's word floating round in China that some bde powa playas be considering maybe kinda putting something together.

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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 374 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

Before anyone gets too excited, the headline is clickbait. The bigger Chinese phone brands are looking into de-googled Android. They are still going to use Android.

several prominent Chinese smartphone manufacturers, including Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, and OnePlus, are exploring the possibility of developing versions of the Android operating system that do not rely on Google Mobile Services.

Chinese laptop makers are also in search of an OS that isn't Windows. Queue a race to prop Linux with Android support on that side of things.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 141 points 1 day ago (9 children)

de-Googled android sounds even better. The story is cooler than the title!

[–] Ulrich 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean they just replace Google with their own Chinese data-mining services so, no, not cool.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 1 day ago

No no no, it's not Chinese data mining.

it's just socialised data with Chinese characteristics! Much better.

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[–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 96 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like your spirit, but I don't think a Chinese equivalent to Google Play Services would be more desirable

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

All I want is unified push really. Then you just choose your server or host your own.

Or just Linux. Like furios or phosh, etc.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 2 points 13 hours ago

I wish more apps supported unified push!

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