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[–] haych@feddit.uk 146 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So that title is just a straight up lie. They want to use a de-googled Android.

To be honest I was hoping for an alternative OS, competition is always good. But a de-googled Android could possibly be good, but being Chinese I assume instead of Google telemetry you'll just be replacing it with CCP telemetry.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 hours ago

Indded but as an Australian, if I have to have an anal probe i'd rather it from the CCP as they wont share it with my Government.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean judging by the current American government id much rather my data is going to the CCP then the American Government via Google as a proxy.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Would love that if it was an option.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz -1 points 7 hours ago

I don't know to what extent they smuggle data out of the devices, but afaik a de-googlified phone such as Pixel + GrapheneOS gets you close.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honestly, I think a person in either nation should consider using the opposing nation's stuff. Harder for the US to backdoor Chinese encryption, or for Chinese to backdoor into an American phone. Play the bastards off each other.

Odds are, that the Trump Regime will use American apps and phones to identify and track targets for ICE traffickers. China probably does the same to Uighurs. The less attack surfaces they have, the better for their respective peoples.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Except that there are credible reports of the CCP running police operations on foreign soil.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But what reason would they have to go after you on foreign soil? Unless you're like actively causing problems for China they're not gonna spend the effort to go after you for saying "China bad" on one of their phones. That only matters if you're in China at which point it's silencing internal discontent. The much bigger likelihood is the American government seeing you, through data Google gathers, organize against US support of Israel or any other position they start abducting people for and grabbing you off the street for it.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Probably not me. Most of the recorded incidents are against Chinese families that have emigrated.

I complain about the CCP here and there, but not likely enough for any attention to be warranted.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

That sounds funny, but In that reality, the government with all its power will find a way in (they probably already have programs (as in departments) for finding their way into other countries tech).

Better to just install a proper de-googled android build (grapheneos, etc) and only use wifi (if data/phone num not needed) for the best odds.

In a couple of years (with more r&d, development and investment) I bet this will change to being use a linux phone.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Apple building backdoors for CCP and sharing any and all data with them: am I a joke to you?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

US telemetry == CCP telemetry, I can't see how CCP will be more damaging to regular person.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

I think it’s just that they were saying his won’t end up benefitting us. It’s just changing who is holding the binoculars.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Because, at least for now, the US has the greater power to fuck up our lives with the information gathered.