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Whatever the name ends up being Iβm just glad theyβre confident enough in a script that they can call a release date.
The books after the first one really go off the rails. I look forward to them trying to sell a movie about Paulβs ridiculous transformation.
You mean Leto II? That's not till the end of children.
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Messiah is him loosing is eyes and walking around with holes in his face creeping people out.
Iβm reading God Emperor for the first time right now. Itβs wild.
Hope you're enjoying it, it's my favourite of the series but I enjoy the philosophy pondering in that book. I can see why it's not for many readers though, and if Dune was hard to film I couldn't imagine trying to do that book without voiceovers of Leeto for more runtime than most studios and viewers would like.
GEoD is my personal favourite too.
There's just something about how much weirder it is.
My absolute favourite bit is when Leto is surprised by Duncan's lasgun. Of course a prescient being would love surprises.
He does say he only checks via prescient, in the book's time, to make sure they're still on the golden path so he can get surprised. That is one of my favourite bits as well, he sort of gapped out for a moment. Then later we get introduced to him talking about wool gathering when Moneo's mind wanders, that just made me ponder if that phrase was because he kept thinking about his surprise earlier in the story due to his own wool gathering. If I recall that phrase came up a few times in the series but I can't remember if earlier or later books.
Also if you think about it, never being surprised and living thousands of years would be quite boring and humanizes him in a way that most people would not think of since he's the worm.
Just finished the re-read of God Emperor and am now onto heretics. I'm here to tell you that it just keeps getting weirder. And, oddly, hornier.
Last book is even hornier.
One of my favorite comments about these movies I've ever seen is "Now do God Emperor, you cowards." Lmao
Dune Messiah has a lot going for it, like the inner workings of palace intrigue and some fantastic elements of world-building (a prime example being the Tleilaxu and their biological tech).
There's also Irulan becoming a key character, her Bene Gesserit POV has a ton and a half of cinematic potential, especially with Florence Pugh at the helm.
But how do you make that Paul and Chani arc satisfying for broad audiences? Also and maybe particularly for reader fans, with how much Denis changed Chani's character from the first book. And even though Paul is galactic emperor, the scale of the story and events does feel smaller than in the first book, there are no new true paradigm shifts.
Things don't get swashbuckling and truly epic again until Children Of Dune, which I loved.
"Swashbuckling" immediately made me think of the scene where
: : : spoiler Title Duncan free climbs the wall as the procession approaches : : :
I'm looking forward to the zombie
IMHO Villeneuve has made two damn near perfect Dune films so far, roll on the next.
People get hung up on deviations from the books. Duh, it's a different medium. That's like complaining that a painting of a sculpture doesn't capture the far side of the sculpture.
The second one put me to sleep.
Legit it felt like an extended montage, not a movie.
I wanted to like it so much.
I never find movies boring unless they are straight up bad. Slow pace doesn't bore me at all.
It wasn't the pace being slow, it's that instead of content being present - the viewer is left to fill in the details of what has happened. I watched it more than once to capture all of the film. The narrative, in my opinion, skims the surface of what's going on. We skip large parts of the story.
The second one was mostly action. Personally I thought it was a lot more entertaining than the first one.
I have a feeling this is something that will be debated for a long time lol
I love that analogy. π
So it looks like Denis is confident with completing the screenplay now, instead of making another film first.
Also to have it ready at this point, means he is eager about it.
Like the man said: "Inspiration does come, but it has to find you working". Well, it seems Denis tapped into that well yet again and before he thought it might happen!
could its title be something other than Dune: Messiah?
He did adjust the story in Dune 2 to better align with Dune: Messiah but it also shows he is no respecter of the original stories, so he might still take things in a different direction, especially as Messiah is, in some ways a darker reaction to the success of Dune and it is unclear how well that would translate into a blockbuster movie. However, it may be Villeneuve has the confidence of the studios and will be given the room to make an... "anti-blockbuster".
Maybe he'll try to combine the next two together? I haven't finished Messiah yet or finished the third one, but I heard it makes a good trilogy?
Children of Dune kinda starts the second arc of the story as it moves away from Paul. Messiah alone should wrap up the story well enough. If Children gets adapted, it'll probably be told together with God-Emperor, maybe even as one movie.
God emperor the HBO Max series. π€
Give it to Lynch too
That would be amazing. It absolutely needs to get weird.
I'll take it
Nothing too exciting in that PDF for me, but I have fingers crossed for a good Project Hail Mary film.
I only watched the first one and for some reason assumed the sequel was the end. How naΓ―ve of me.
It was part two of the first book. "Dune 3" would be the second book, Dune Messiah.
If you download this PDF report from the Q2 2024 IMAX Investor Presentation, there are charts showing which films are being produced with IMAX in mind all the way through to the end of 2026.
It's interesting as it looks like a strong slate of blockbusters through the year, which might help the industry bounce back from this year. Unfortunately, it doesn't show the potentially more interesting (to me) films but that's fine, they'll be a nice surprise.
Hm, as much as I want to see this movie, I would be bummed if Villeneuve doesn't make Rendezvous with Rama first.
I wish they never let that dude make the movies.... especially the 2nd one.... I felt like they given up on the whole movie, the second half felt like they ran out of time and ideas, so they made that anticlimactic boring ending. I coudn't even beleived my eyes..... The syfy miniseries in the early 2000s was way way waaaaaay better and enjoyable that this cashgrab. and let's make an other one? no thanks, I felt like the disaster they called "Foundation".