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"AI is a tool when it comes to AI art"
I find that rather dumb. Because tools are made to help people. You use a hammer to nail things, for example. You don't leave the hammer to do all the nailing by itself. If your only involvement there is just with your prompt, then you didn't do anything, the computer did. This would be like saying "I commissioned a drawing from this artist and told them what to do, therefore I made this drawing and this artist is a tool".
The irony here is that the top image looks AI generated but the bottom image appears to be a real photo.
How so? I tried to check for "obvious logical errors", and they turned out to be not that.
weird miniature plate of basil
spaghetti on fork is on top of, not coming out of, main plate, and the perspective where the bottom of the hanging noodles falls infront of the plated noodles looks weird
hand holding fork weirdly
spaghetti rests impossibly on top of fork, not through the tines
left most noodle, the short one sticking out, seems to pass under the two noodles above it without displacing them
the noodles wrapped around the base of the fork look "off"
top right tomato on foreground plate looks like a Frisbee
water glass is refracting the plate behind it above the water line as if it's below the water line
It's just the kind over clean aesthetic that most AI has.
Also the strange repetition of the tomatoes.
Canned art
Interestingly I think the top "I made this" looks AI generated and the bottom image depiction of AI slop was an actual photo from alamy.
I mean, this does not feel like a point for non AI use. I would still say I made spaghetti or chicken noodle soup or garlic bread or pizza I'd I made it from the can or frozen. I don't use AI imagery though.
One involves boiling water, getting the time right for doneness, making or heating the sauce. It can also turn out well the more skill someone has.
The other is premade in a can and will always be mediocre slop. It is a perfect comparison.
Perfect comparison, eh?
Well, having just made pomodoro sauce from fresh tomatoes, according to this recipe from Marco Pierre White, and in it, he says the secret he was told is 50% fresh and 50% tinned.
Yes pure AI slop sucks but the tech is a pretty nifty tool in certain situations.
Yeah, you can tell people you made tinned spaghetti for dinner last night. You’ll get the disgusted looks and “I hope you get some real food tonight” comments.
A better analogy would be counterfeiting money with your printer, especially as the main current side effect of genAI is people started to expect more and more custom-made artwork and photos for regular stuff.
This is how I felt about 3d printing and always got shit on for saying it. I can carve or sculpt something for hours and a 3d printed item makes someone go “I made this” well I mean your printer did
Digital art is still art and effort and talent. You also need to have some technical expertise to know how to use as well as tune and maintain a 3D printer. 3d modeling is not a "snap your fingers and it's there" kind of thing.
I think they may be referring to the kind of people that just lazily pull someone else's 3d rendering from somewhere online, run it through a printer, and go around showing off what "they" made.
There's definitely plenty of those types around...
I hate those octopuses print things, they're fucking everywhere.
What do you even do with those things? Put them on a shelve to catch dust and shed micro plastics?
Draw. Sculpt. Paint. Write a story.
We don't need more "it's just cool" plastic stuff.
I might agree with you if I hadn't heard ten thousand bad takes over the years about how digital art isn't art or how photographs aren't art or how video games aren't art. If their take was that printing pre-made files isn't art, then they should have said that.
They kind of did though, as they're specifically comparing the printing process with the carving/sculpting process with no mention of the creative aspects such as 3d modelling for the printer vs. planning out what you're going to sculpt.
Seems like you're taking it a little personally and twisting words tbh.