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[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you travel in the same plane all the time, and you own that plane, people will be able to track you. Why not just get a good contract with a private jet company so you can fly anonymously? Even if she wins this case, she will still be trackable until she takes advantage of any of the options she has at her disposal.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Heck she could spend a tiny amount of her dragon hoard sized wealth to offset the environmental impact of her air travel. For example by buying endangered rain forest land and donating it to a public charity. But no, she rather uses her wealth as a legal club to try to silence people pointing out the harm she does to the planet.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, she could do that put people would still fixate on the private flight usage.

No, obfuscating her travel in charters is the viable 'solution' to this problem. Still roughly equivalent environmental impact (actually, potentially a bit more since a charter company might have to do extra empty flights for repositioning), but her travel would be harder to discern.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

To be fair, she could do that put people would still fixate on the private flight usage.

Some sure would. But with good PR she could definitely come up on top of it. Certainly better than she fares now. And if someone could pull it off, then it's her.

No, obfuscating her travel in charters is the viable ‘solution’ to this problem. Still roughly equivalent environmental impact (actually, potentially a bit more since a charter company might have to do extra empty flights for repositioning), but her travel would be harder to discern.

That would be the "rich way" to avoid such a problem yeah. But it certainly wouldn't make her a better person.

[–] HerrLewakaas@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Or buy two more private jets and always have two fly randomly across the country while noone knows which one you're using

Checkmate

[–] trackindakraken@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'm expecting her to be revealed as a villain at some point. She was born with a silver spoon, there are skeletons in closets, and she knows it. Time will tell.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Threatening legal action against some kid because she is too much of a rich asshole to travel like a normal person. If being a billionaire wasn't it then this is should be the reveal.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Especially since she's definitely rich enough to offset her global foot print from her jet usage by actively donating to charities trying to protect the planet ten times and she wouldn't feel it one bit.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don't know anything about her. Was she born wealthy? That could explain a lot of the success.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

She was. She basically bought her way into the music industry. In her early years, a lot of her hype was manufactured and astroturfed. Notably she did write her early songs herself, (the vast majority of pop songs are ghostwritten,) but didn’t have enough appeal to actually break into the industry. So her rich parents basically bought her a record label contract.

She has managed to turn the original millions into over a billion. So that is absolutely notable. But she wasn’t born poor, and it’s not a rags-to-riches story. Even without music, she never would’ve had to worry about rent or groceries.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Turning a thousand dollars into a million is infintely harder than turning a million dollars into a billion.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Way to kill the goodwill you've been gaining Taylor

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ehh, she is still human. She is one of the most recognizable and sought after a celebrities we've seen in a very long time. It must be absolutely horrible to be 24/7 in the public eye. But you can't fight it and she hasn't learned that yet. Try not to blame her, just be glad we got a level of goodwill that you don't find in most celebrities, and hope that it continues.

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

No one is forcing her to fly around that much. And she's by no means a new up and coming celebrity but has been dealing with this since 2 decades now.

So no, she doesn't get a free pass to use her wealth to silence very deserved criticism of her disgusting global footprint! Heck, she could spend a tiny amount of her dragon hoard sized wealth to donate to environmental protection to offset this footprint. But no, she rather uses that money to sue someone who she knows doesn't have the wealth to fight her legally.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you are for Musk being tracked, you should be fine with her being tracked the same way.

I'm for anyone in a private jet being tracked.

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Aren't all jets tracked?

flightradar24.com

[–] Syndic@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Every civilian aircraft is required by air traffic regulations to broadcast it's flight path and identifier.

So once a plane registration is publicly known to be owned by someone they can of course be tracked. Of course it doesn't mean that the owner is on the plane, but it certainly let's you gather how much they fly around. Turns out that Taylor's jet is used a lot even for private jets, which obviously doesn't make her look good from an environmental point of view. Now she tries to use her wealth to silence people tracking this and pointing it out to the public. Shame on her!

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Didn't the richest person in the world try to do this exact same thing? I'm still convinced it's the reason he bought Twitter. Those flight logs are public information because they prevent mid air collisions, your not going to change that. No one is going to be putting military grade radar equipment on a Boeing 757 if they can't even stop the doors from opening mid flight.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Those flight logs are public information because they prevent mid air collisions, your not going to change that.

One way to prevent being personally identified is to not fly around in your own personal jet and use one of the many other available options that aren't trackable this way.

[–] tomatopathe@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Several points:

  • Lots of information is public, such as your address. That doesn't mean somebody explicitly publishing your address for the purpose of harassing you isn't committing an offence.

  • Some celebrities can't fly on passenger planes for their own safety and even that of others or the proper functioning of infrastructure. Can you imagine Taylor Swift trying to fly on a public carrier? She would get mobbed at the very least. At worst she might be putting her health or even her life in danger. Especially now that the MAGA morons are attacking her.

I find Taylor Swift bland as beige, I don't get the appeal at all, and I think Musk is a rabid twatwaffle. I also don't believe anyone should really get to be so wealthy. Still, there are good reasons why one might need to travel by private means without their movements being broadcast.

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

Why wouldnt celebrities be able to fly on passenger planes?

If there was some security risk to consider, it would still be cheaper by a factor of 100 or more to just buy a business class ticket and buy some tickets for the security guards too. I am sure, there is also options to organize not going through the public check-in of the airport and to be able to board the plane discreetly before the normal boarding.

Also it is very easy to defend someone on a public plane. the aisles don't allow for more than one attacker at once, and i am sure there is enough tall muscular men for hire to block all aisles.

[–] dog_@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago