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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That is what just amazes me. She is already the backup if he got that bad (and despite peoples hyperbole he is not that bad currently). I mean I will vote for her as the canidate just like I did for her being vp but I find the whole have biden step down is pointless and likely to just make things worse.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think it not only hurts Trump's arguments against Biden for all the bullshit they've brought up over the last 4 years (hunter, Ukraine, etc...) but it also allows her to step up and unload on Trump which Biden just doesn't have the energy or mental capacity to properly do anymore.

That and not that any moderates were on the fence about him or trump, but they might have been on the fence about Biden or just not voting. Here's to hoping she isn't completely pathetic and doesn't fall flat on her face immediately... But then again these are Democrats, and if anything "we're" the best at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -1 points 4 months ago

yeah. again though I expect a bunch of harris will lose even worse. shes to liberberal or ethnic or testosterone challenged or whatever. My preference is to move forward united as is but its not like im voting any other way regardless what happens

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

People want a ticket they can be excited about to make sure people get out there and vote in November. While potential Biden voters are not going to switch to Trump, there's a real chance they might stay home. That's essentially a vote for Trump.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the Democrats really need a Hail Mary. Kamala is the best bet based upon where she is right now.

Yes, it's a risk, but not as risky as keeping Joe as the candidate.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

I don't even think Kamala is a Hail Mary. I think she'd be the favorite to win in November.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

yeah but 100% no replacement will get people to be excited. There is always a chance that potential voters will stay at home no matter who is running. I won't be one of them. Well actually I will because my state does mail in.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People are less likely to stay home if they are excited about the ticket. Democrats aren't very excited about the Biden/Harris ticket right now. On the other side, Republicans are very excited about the Trump/Vance ticket.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

true but what ticket would make them excited? Not just republicans are excited about trump/vance. I know I am and it certainly energizes my vote.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I can just speak for myself. I'd be more excited about Harris or Whitmer or Shapiro or Newsom.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 4 months ago

can you say why though. I like biden because of specific white house actions that came out of this term. Because of that I like harris next in the hope she got the experience and will continue with the current direction on most things (I think bidens term was helped by lessons learned from obamas terms). The others. I would be more excited with yang.