WHAT
- Former U.S. President Donald J. Trump was shot at a rally in PA.
TRUMPS STATEMENT
“I want to thank The United States Secret Service, and all of Law Enforcement, for their rapid response on the shooting that just took place in Butler, Pennsylvania. Most importantly, I want to extend my condolences to the family of the person at the Rally who was killed, and also to the family of another person that was badly injured. It is incredible that such an act can take place in our Country. Nothing is known at this time about the shooter, who is now dead. I was shot with a bullet that pierced the upper part of my right ear. I knew immediately that something was wrong in that I heard a whizzing sound, shots, and immediately felt the bullet ripping through the skin. Much bleeding took place, so I realized then what was happening. GOD BLESS AMERICA!”
WHAT WE THINK WE KNOW SO FAR
- gunman is dead
- Trump "is fine"
- one attendee is dead
- another attendee is in critical condition
News Sources
- CNN - Trump rushed off stage after shooting at Pennsylvania rally
- AP News - Live updates: Shooting at Trump rally is being investigated as assassination attempt, AP sources say
- The Hill - George W. Bush condemns ‘cowardly attack’ at Trump rally
- Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) on Xitter - video interview with witness who tried to warn police before shooting happened
- Sky News - Gunshots reportedly fired at Donald Trump rally - as former president rushed off stage (Article confirms one rally attendee dead)
- Reuters - Biden says he is grateful to hear Trump is safe, has been briefed on shooting
- OAlexanderDK on Xitter - The shooter was on a roof approximately 125m or 400ft from where Trump was standing.
- JakeMRosen on Xitter - An emergency room doctor I spoke with tried to save someone’s life in the crowd
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-says-he-is-grateful-hear-trump-is-safe-has-been-briefed-shooting-2024-07-14/
Must the Democrats champion good manners ALL the time? Jesus Christ he's a fascist! Fuck good sportsmanship!
Who the fuck are you trying to impress? Who's going to consider this the moment they vote for Biden over Trump?
"Violence has no place in America."
Cops killing citizens. Native genocide. Genocide in Palestine. Protesters being beaten. People using their "rights" being arrested and killed. Slow socially accepted murder caused by poverty. Rights for Queer youth being taken away, which leads to self harm.
Why do they just give "thoughts and prayers" to Hitler 2.0? Trump isn't going to be kind with this, he'll start saying every Democrat is responsible for this. Fuck the "higher moral ground".
Because like it or not saying "Too bad you didn't die from that" will not only lose moral high ground but also already-can't-aford-to-lose votes?
Are you suddenly pro-violence because one is a someone you think is the Hitler 2.0? I get the sentiment but I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Jan 6 people would say to Joe.
Don't fuck the higher moral ground. Why be them to fight them? Celebrating public shooting is doing more than just losing moral highground...
"Thoughts and prayers to the man who wishes to make America a fascist dictatorship because of Russia. It'd be rude to wish that man dead."
Violence to fascists is self defense for minorities, especially ones like me. I bet you if Trump died, the Mexicans locked in cages at the border would cheer. I would.
When Trump starts calling for certain politicians to be unalive and even gets the ok from the Supreme Court, I hope all the people crying about the moral high ground remember this moment
They'll say we're the true monsters for wishing the camp guards to keel over and die as we dig our mass graves.
Take some solace in the fact that thoughts and prayers are laughably useless. It's just "well isn't that a shame" only somehow society hasn't caught on that it's a fucking joke.
Do you really think that Trump wouldn't be replaced by a more evil and intelligent republican, and then win because of Trump being a martyr?
The republicans have Trump as a runner because he's the only one who has any chance or winning. As soon as he's politically-motivated murdered, that changes completely. It'd be even scarier to have an actual smart fascist at the helm.
That makes so much sense! Hitler had to commit suicide because no one else could execute him without risking losing the moral high ground! I can't believe I never realized that!
We have other means to stop Trump. If he gets elected and becomes Hitler 2.0 dictator as advertised and that there's no other way to stop him I'd say go for it. Heck, I think constitution would too.
So you don't understand the Trolley Problem? I'm not sure the "moral high ground" is necessarily what you think it is in this case.
This is not the trolley problem. The question is not kill Trump or. The killing attempt failed. Trump is alive. There is nothing to gain by advocating for political violence after a failed assassination attempt.
If this was an assassination attempt on Hitler in 1939, would the trolley problem not apply? If the attempt succeeded before his successful rise to power, how many lives would have ultimately been saved?
I don't think you can say either way for sure which outcome would lead to less bloodshed... I do know that trying and missing is probably the worst possible outcome...
Don't forget allowing abortion bans so teen and child rape victims are forced to give birth to their rapists' babies. And Tuskegee. And lack of healthcare access which kinda eugenics disabled people. And the CIA. Guantanamo. The government's response to the AIDs epidemic.
Capitalism literally doesn't exist without violence and the constant threat of it
I added that to the mega thread. Thanks!