it was an incredibly close shot. looks like he coincidentally moved his head the exact moment the shot rang, if he hadn't he would be gone. factors like windage also play a role. idk which outcome is worse.

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 89 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I also don’t know which outcome would be worse but I do know which one I really wanted in that moment.

[–] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

MAGA world would collapse from infighting to be the new figure head. So I know which outcome I'd have preferred.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Both Trump and the Shooter surviving would have been best. If the kid was able to say exactly why he did it, then all the conspiracy would die. An Trump would have some uncomfortable questions about his involvement with Epstein. That second part might still happen. But likely won't.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 71 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Definitely this one. This just killed my hope that he loses again, and you know the Gravy Seals are going to step up their harassment and violence towards people - and that would have been true either way. At least with the other outcome he doesn't get in.

He couldn't have asked for a better gift for his campaign.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 43 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As someone indicated below, he's now a living martyr. I would place money that he uses this to galvanize his following and it actually benefits him in the polls.

He needed to die in an embarrassing way (lethal dose of ex-lax?) for it to hurt his reputation.

I don't buy the 'pave the way for someone worse' argument. Who would that be? I can't think of anyone right now, except for maybe De Santis in terms of actually being somewhat competent.

[–] JohnnyH842@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Might not be a politician. He wasn't before he became president.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A perversion of the word Martyr as it requires one to walk in faith. The appropriating of religious symbols merely as an aesthetic is really on brand...

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Martyr apparently comes from Greek meaning "one who testifies in court." The religious connotations came later.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Apparently, eating C-4 causes diarrhoea. Bomb tech recruits would be fed small amounts of C-4 and then chased around with a taser, a shock from which they feared would set it off, while trying not to shit themselves

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Cruz is competent and evil, ramashwarmy will do anything the likes of miller and bannon come up with, de sanstis as you said... There are worse options, frightingly...

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Haley isn't really afraid to say the quiet part loud.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (4 children)

him dying would've turned him into a martyr and basically solidified him as a saint, if not a god, to the maga crowd. I can imagine the repercussions of that. there's also the possibility that someone worse replaces him, someone just as fascist and selfish but twice as competent, and that would be disastrous. y'know, the whole "guys I went back in time and killed Hitler" trope/joke.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He's already a god to his followers. People literally paint him as the second coming of Jesus Christ. There is no one worse in this moment than Donald Trump.

[–] Atin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sure there are people who are worse. There are people behind their movement that have not stuck their head up and are competent.

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Sure, yet none of them are able to do what Trump does. That's why it's taken 40+ years for them to get to this point. The Mitch McConnells and such might be politically saavy, but they don't have the "charisma" of Donald Trump to actually pull off the end game. That's why they all protect him so much, he's a cult figure, which can be difficult to fabricate.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but then he couldnt be in the oval, which is what actually matters lol.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

others have made a terrifying point that his death could incite another instruction like Jan 6.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which biden would be prepared to deal with. Keep in mind that Trump was in office for Jan 6. One might even consider that a good thing, as this time with a competent president there would be less victims, and more insurrectionists getting their voting rights taken away.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

¿Biden competent? He's probably gonna die of old age by Jan 5, and if not, is going to be ordering who knows what crap with his dementia on Jan 6...

[–] Agrivar@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You're going to have to do better if you want to fool anyone, estúpido troll ruso.

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Don't engage, just mark him as a right wing troll with a user note so you can remember not to engage with him.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

I'll give you one (1) pity point for jumping right to the low hanging tree category for personal attack.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 13 points 4 months ago

I still think that would be better

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Now he’s a living martyr.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago

Trump at his next public appearance.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

this is true...

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and basically solidified him as a saint, if not a god, to the maga crowd.

I'm pretty sure that's already true, but I see your point overall.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

A lot of them already called him "the God Emperor", so...

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Assuming it was actually the bullet that injured his ear, and not the 10 secret service guys wrestling a 78 year old man to the ground.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

In the video he reacts to something before being tackled, kinda ducking his head a little and grabbing at his ear. He was hit by something, but I've heard some conjecture it may have been shrapnel from a shot teleprompter, so seems to either be that or a bullet itself.

[–] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's why you aim for the torso, center of mass, smh, frfr

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Some still survive injury to the head so if you want to kill someone instantly, try to aim for the heart. Security services know this that's why persons of interest are advised to wear bulletproof vests. I am guessing Trump is wearing one so had the shooter tried to aim for the torso, that would have been more embarrassing than near-missing Trump to the head.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

Like a real life Day of the Jackal.