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https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7054#issuecomment-1916315391
They auto download binaries, even proprietary ones, unsigned and without user interaction.
YEAH security!
So they're doing the equivalent of VSCode(ium)'s extensions, but installing them automatically and not giving you the option to use alternatives?
Blegh.
tl;dr: General purpose extensions are not even implemented yet
zed is very much an early stages editor; it'll look very different a year from now
I think they auto install some binaries like nodejs that are required for baseline functionality, but have a popup window for additional language LSPs
what if I wanted to use deno or bun? I don't think that should be their decision to install "default" stuff that have alternatives
I'm all for their improvement tho
I don't see your point? Nodejs is installed in a custom directory and not added to PATH. It is used by Zed for providing npm support for extensions, and other things. I'm not a Zed developer so I don't know exactly.
It doesn't prevent you from using deno or bun in any way.
I see, that's greatif it is only locally installed and used, messing with PATH could, probably, break stuff like nvm or others
Quoting the guy:
"that rewriting those in Rust will take an eternity, so not sure what is actionable here, hence closing."
That's Rust shining from all its glories here gentlemen...
The best language, if there is nothing changing.
That's a thing to make a web server or a library that displays Fibonacci, that's something else when there are humans with changing scopes...
Its not Rusts fault, the devs are simply lazy and making insecure products, as they dont want to rewrite everything.
That's what I am saying.
To quote you: "they don't want to rewrite everything" ...
Writing Rust often implies major refactoring and it takes so much time to write that your requests go: "pewf" closed due to the amount of effort it takes.
Anyway, been there, done that! Zig is probably the real future; it's a joy to write, it compiles fast, clear to read, and safe.
It has shared libraries and a proper integration with existing C/CPP code base.
You should try it, that's an amazing language with a real potential to replace the legacy.
I dunno man... I'm not sure I'm so keen on a language that prides itself on not having macros
Comptime replaces macros/reflection.
It's basically Zig code that runs at compile time in your code...
No other "weird" language to learn; it's zig all the way. What you would have written in macro is written in zig comptime.
Even the build system is zig...
Same for generics, it's comptime...
They were exaggerating to avoid work. Look at the PR diff to determine whether your anti-Rust bias is true.
There are no patch, the issue has been closed as in rejected.
There are a few tasks that are open that are loosely related, but let's not mix things up.
Moreover, I will take the words of the maintainers over a random potato on a forum.
No offense...
The issue was closed, but a draft PR was linked... potato:
https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/pull/14034
As I mentioned, a couple of tasks loosely related. The patch you are mentioning isn't complete nor address the real problem.
It is an ugly hack at best.
Refrain from your urge to defend rust at all costs. You are sliding more and more toward the specifics of a project than the fact I stated about rust in general.
If you still not get my initial point I've made, read this.
That's a long read explaining what I meant. My point was about Rust, not Zed or the developers of Zed in particular.
And for the Zed editor, I wish them the best luck, it seems like a great project that people enjoy.
Please feel free to comment and share your thoughts on the article above, my dear favorite nutritious veggie.
I use rust only if we need performance, for small services. The industry does the same. People use node for backend but e.g. redis is in rust. It's a good tool if you use it for the right stuff.
EDIT: redis is not in rust, but e.g. aws writes many services in rust
Wtf are you talking about? Redis is in C....
yeah I'm a fucking idiot because I thought wrongly the redis' language...
You're not an idiot, you just misremembered. It happens