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[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 118 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Kamala raised over $1 billion dollars for her campaign, most of which was from small donors.

If that doesn't tell the Dems they don't need oligarch money, nothing will.

[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Then they spent it on high per hour political consultants who paid Beyonce to perform

Except Beyonce literally didn't perform for Harris?

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
[–] twistypencil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Oh. I heard Oprah got a mil, but that could be fake

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I heard Elon was born on the moon, but that could be fake too. I wish there was a way to know for sure, or at least see a small amount of evidence one way or the other.

[–] Ismay@programming.dev 60 points 21 hours ago

They know that. Problem is the WANT billionaires money too ^^

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's a mere pittance compared to what the wealthy actually spend on conservatives and messaging. That's 1 billion dollars every 4 years. Fox news, daily wire, OANN, and all the myriad of other propaganda outlets churn through more than that a year.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 39 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, but we're not talking about conservatives.

The Democratic party has a problem, and that problem is what Democratic voters want doesn't align with what Democratic donors want. The voters want progressive policies passed, while the donors want the same neoliberalism that keeps them rich. And trying to appease one of those groups obviously alienates the other.

If any Democratic politician truly wants to help the American population, the fact that Kamala raised so much money in such a short amount of time, and the fact that many states passed progressive policies even though they voted for Trump, should tell them that they don't need to kowtow to the wealthy because the voters will support them. Unfortunately, I don't think they're going to learn that lesson.

Republicans, of course, don't have this problem because their voters and their donors all want the same thing.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

I donated to Kamala's campaign ($10), but then I realized what direction they were taking around the DNC and stopped giving them money.

Not all doners agreed with her platform, just like how not all voters did.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

The whole point of this was asking why Democrats are catering to wealthy conservative donors instead of progressive or left leaning voters. I just stated the reason why. The 1 billion dollars collected from small donors every four years for a presidential run is nice. But it's nothing compared to what the wealthy dump into messaging and campaigning constantly. Until such time as small donors can even come close to remotely matching that. Sustaining entire media Outlet ecosystems to counter the propaganda from conservatives. Democrats aren't going to give up trying to get some of that wealthy conservative money

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What happens to the amount they didn't spend?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe if they go bankrupt we can start a new party that cares what its voters think and doesnt shit the bed so often.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth -3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

nothings stopping you right now

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Money, time, and connections are pretty big things you need to start a new political party.

It's not like advertising a garage sale. I like your spirit though.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 0 points 13 hours ago

another party failing won't make any of that easier

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

X for doubt on that. Im sure they've said that though. That's a lot of really expensive campaign parties for a three month run

[–] ZK686@lemmy.world -1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

It was celebrity money, you know, the same people that were telling people they were "just like them."

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Really awesome point! I hope that becomes apparent to them

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago

Narrator: It didn't.