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[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social 143 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 81 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Young women are alright, right wing support amongst <35 y.o. men is surprisingly high...

[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social 72 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Agreed. I'm a teacher and see it in my classrooms. I often feel that they're not taught how to have healthy community, so they become lil fascists...

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 month ago (3 children)

If they're like my nephew, the "manosphere" gives them easy answers as to why everything seems to suck.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's also the only answer. Society has really neglected boys for a long time now.

[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social 34 points 1 month ago (35 children)

Yup. Patriarchy did them dirty. Society told them they had to be strong, stoic, and without emotion. And when that butted up against the realities of being a human we didn't have any community to lead them towards living a good and healthy life.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can fault the Right for a lot of things but they got there first on this one. They have a story for why things suck and they’re pounding the drum on it relentlessly. It doesn’t matter that this story is full of holes when the alternative is not compelling.

Yup. The propaganda machine moved quick when they realized this population could be manipulated into action outside of message boards.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Calling it "patriarchy" is thinly-veiled victim blaming, implying that men suffer primarily because of other men's decisions. Everything you describe is perpetuated and maintained by both sexes. The social fabric of modern society, its implicit rules and conventions, is not a male establishment.

Western society is not, at all, a "patriarchy".

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

It doesn't help that every time we point out how society failed boys, there's always someone who says it's misogynistic to show men any concern....

Being a guy is no cake walk, and if anyone can say that with a straight face it's me.

lights up a cigarette They say women like a bad boy, well, I was so bad at being a boy I became a girl.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

Tell your nephew that Trump just said he’ll ban video games if he wins.

[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup. And it's always women and brown folks.

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget LGBTQ and furries. 🙄

The amount of times I've had to address the "students using litter boxes" schtick is absolutely mind boggling.

It's always a school two towns over, and it's always someone who has no attachment to the school attempting to push it.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

They know this shit isn't working, so they're siding with the ones who give them someone to blame... It's that simple....

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have great hope that they'll be better than our generation, just as we were better than our parents. Fuck the 'fuck the kids' mentality.

[–] Whopraysforthedevil@midwest.social 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm a classroom teacher, and I find that you've gotta sometimes have both "fuck them kids" and "for the kids" in different measures. But overall, I feel like they're doing a lot of cool things.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a good point. I think that one of the myths that needs to die is that if the cherubic, sweet, innocent, and pure child. Many children, without guidance, are sociopathic assholes. We're not born "good" then corrupted by the world, we're born with some personality traits that may or may not help us as social creatures and need help to learn how to handle our emotions and cooperate with others in a manner that is pro-social.

Yup. Like John Green, I'm generally in favor of humans, but we've got some perfectly natural tendencies that can really harm others if left unchecked. I think kids want to do good, but they need to be taught how to, given the space to practice, and corrected with grace when they fuck it up.

[–] Xylight@lemdro.id 7 points 1 month ago

A side effect of me being terminally online is that you can predict the top comment of some posts