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[–] NoisyFlake@lemm.ee 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm running Windows 10 LTSC with a custom start menu (StartIsBack). So far I have avoided all of Microsoft’s nonsense.

As long as I’m not ready to switch to Linux 100%, this is probably the best possible solution.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I went 10 years ago to Linux. To avoid all Windows non sense..

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Many people want that, but can't bc of their jobs.:-(

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well.. at least at home you can run Linux. That's a start. And otherwise try to switch or create your own business. It seems the latter is the only option to fully get rid of Windows, since soon companies will move to Windows 11 with Windows Recall and other AI bs. No thanks, I'm out.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any company worth anything will keep recall disabled. Obviously, with Microsoft, it will get "accidentally" activated in an update, so admins will have to play whack a mole, but nobody should enable that malware when it's released.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I agree. Fun fact: You can't uninstall Microsoft Recall.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Everything about it is so bad. It's like someone woke up one day and thought, what is the legally worst piece of software I can make and force in people?

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Users of Microsoft accepted more and more. And slowly we are all in this situation (if you would still use Windows). Similar to the The Boiling Frog Syndrome. Get out now, while you still can. Try to search for alternatives. You have been warned.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I went cold turkey to Linux this past December. Best choice I've ever made. I am still stuck on Windows for work and I assist friends and family with their stuff, but otherwise I'm happily out of the system.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great nice to hear! Which distro did you choice (No wrong answers)? Do you still need help or have questions or issues?

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I jumped right in the deep end with Arch. I've been a sys admin for about a decade and in IT for another 5 years, so I'm good with computers, but more importantly, I'm good at searching for and finding solutions to my problems. It was a bit rocky for the first setup, but been mostly smooth sailing since Jan or Feb. I reformatted to change to btrfs and snapper after the first month or two.

I still don't know a lot about how Linux works or where any of the config files are, but I'm learning. I'm all on the bandwagon.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Luckily for you Arch has the best wiki pages out there for documentation purposes. If you have any questions regarding Linux or you want to know something, just ask.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm looking trying a new distro on my junker laptop. I'm kde and Arch right now. Do you have any recommendations for where I should test the waters? I don't have any intentions with this machine other than testing distros and couch surfing.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 2 months ago

I myself have much success with Linux Mint (eg. Cinnamon edition). I love Mint.. It just works.. It's stable and I can focus on doing my work under Linux, which is software development mostly. But I just don't have the time to debug my distro, fixing things and compile stuff myself. I already need to manage multiple PCs & servers running Linux. Hence I went with Linux Mint on both my desktop PCs as well as my laptop I'm currently typing on.

I tested things like: bluetooth, wifi, speedtest, webcam, shortcuts (eg. sound buttons or brightness buttons at the top), trackpad, multiple finger gestures. The only thing I didn't yet test is the finger print reader, if it has one?..

Framework laptops can also come with many expansion cards, like HDMI, DisplayPort, network (LAN) port, USB a, USB c, and so much more. I also tested those in-/outputs. Thus far everything seem to work nicely. I did switch the wifi card, I replaced the stock wifi card with a Intel AX210, which seems to work much better under Linux in terms of not only speed, but also signal strength. Let me know if you want to know more..

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 2 months ago

Oh that's no accident, nor do your words go far enough, unfortunately, bc they are doing stuff now that actually was fully illegal, back when the US government was more functional and pursued antitrust laws against Microsoft. :-(

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh yuck. I also switched away - half Linux, two-thirds Mac (hehe, all fun:-) - but not everyone can manage that.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How does the interoperability work for your setup? Did you set up something special? What backup system do you use?

I ask because I plan to integrate some Apple stuff so my family can interact with it, like local-only backups, interacting with the TV (kodi) and music (mpd). I will not use software from apple on my side (well, beside the FOSS stuff from them, like bonjour or the printer stuff).

[–] OpenStars@discuss.online 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I meant like a daily usage situation - e.g. working from a terminal, running MacVim, and things like Firefox and Slack etc. all work fine from a Mac - but I don't self-host, and I run actual Mac OSX itself, so my answers may be of limited utility to you.

If someone else is reading this I would look into running a Jellfin server from a machine running Linux, which can be connected to from a device running iOS or Android or whatever they want - but your kodi+mpd already sounds like it should do the trick.

Hopefully you can avoid running Mac OSX itself, but if that's not possible then perhaps at worst you could get a machine that does that and then partially isolate it on the network? (though that is beyond my skillset:-)

For TV I just an ancient ChromeCast (iirc it's a first-generation even!) and that works from everything (ironically one of the harder solutions was from Samsung mobile, though even ancient iPads have apps that will make it happen). I worry about when my TV and especially the ChromeCast dies what will I do - it will take so much time to investigate a replacement, it seems all/most of the newer solutions are trying to inject ads or whatever into the stream, or even just not working as simply as the old. Mine is security through obscurity, which only works for so long until the hardware flat wears out:-).

And I barely have a backup solution - just a single SSD that I put stuff onto when I think about it, and is aging so when it too wears out... I have so much catching up that I need to do, I'm setting myself up for pain most likely:-(. But also I tend to "stream" most things rather than "download", so my need for thus is extremely much smaller.

That's already plenty, thank you very much!

[–] superkret 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At my job I run what my employer wants me to run. I get paid for it, they get to decide the OS.
But at home I've been running Linux since 2006.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So far I've managed to avoid most this kind of crap with minor tweaking, but with end of life coming soon I've been meaning to make the switch for ages, but there are always more urgent priorities.. If you don't mind me asking, and if you know - is it still possible to switch from win10 to win10 LTSC, and if so, what does it entail (do I need a fresh install, or can I just upgrade?)?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure it'll be a fresh install, even if you do it from within your existing install. It'll do a parallel install.

LTSC images (MD5 verifiable)

Microsoft Activation Scripts

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Better, fair, but is it possible to upgrade an existing install? 😬

I have a lot going on right now and convenience is priority over ideal if I'm honest..

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, thanks! That does look promising (to me as a lay person anyway!), I'll have to give it a try once I've sorted out that extra memory I've been meaning to buy since my backup space is running out, and I definitely want to make sure I have a solid back up before trying anything.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The last one about a backup is a great idea. Not because some receipt can be misleading, but because my 20y+ with Windows showed me it has some temper on it's own and can kick back for no reason.

I wish you to get it right without a problem.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, I've had my fair share of disaster, backing up lesson learned the hard way lol

I'll do my best to remember to update when I get around to trying the upgrade out. Thanks again!

[–] The_v@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have been using custom start menus since the whole win8 full screen disaster. Every time I see the default win 10 or Win 11 menu I cringe. So much crap in the way.

Process optimization reaches a point of diminishing returns. Then if tweaked further it degrades the performance. Microsoft reached the close to the optimal OS design at Win7. It's all been downhill since then.

The mobile OS systems are reaching the same point. Optimization has occured and most of the "new" additions degrade the user experience.

The Win10 one can be pretty handy if set up nicely.

[–] Evilschnuff 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I also like the LTSC version for my workstation, less nonsense.

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Outside of junk pre-installed, isn't it also just a longer extended windows update? Meaning you'd eventually get the updates regardless?

[–] NoisyFlake@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, LTSC only receives security updates, not feature updates.

[–] Kyouki@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Interesting, thank you for the detail.