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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 172 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Where’s the media constantly asking him if he will drop out the way they asked Biden?

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 57 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I don't really get all the negative press the guy is getting from the left spun media. His supporters aren't disappearing.... instead they're coming out of the woodwork and showing their true colors that they've sworn all along isn't how they are. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more voters this year than any year before showing up for the biggest asshole to be elected president in my lifetime. Also the only one term president in my lifetime from voters because he is hated that much by the other half.

To so many conservatives racism doesn't exist. They aren't against black people or foreigners... but they are literally coming out front and center to be anti-black, especially since the pandemic era BLM protests. Springfield Ohio is just another perfect example of how racism not only exists, but is celebrated by about half the country. It's just insane that it isn't even shunned.

My favorite line from the debate was when dumpy said "we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums and they’re coming and they’re taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and Hispanics" Are you fucking kidding me? Minimum and sub-minimum wage jobs are now "black and hispanic" jobs? That's what you're trying to force american citizens into? very low paying, low qol, minimum healthcare roles with no chance of advancement and no hope for a better future. Make america great again and bring back slavery right?

Sorry for the rant, I just can't believe how monstrous humans can be. There's just no more rational discourse or anything resembling sane critical thinking anymore in the media. It's all just outrage fuel and inane distractions. On the left media sites they keep saying it's doomsday for trump. They said he couldn't beat Hillary too and she had an even bigger point lead ahead of the election https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_110716/

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

We have to start admitting to ourselves, that as a species, we're still closer to nature than we are some amazing spacefaring civilization.


The thing is, I actually disagree here:

To so many conservatives racism doesn’t exist.

I've been around these people long enough to understand that's just not fucking true. They like to present it out in public like it is, but deep down, just like Trump, they're keenly aware of exactly how racist they are, they just don't like being called a racist. Its' about power. They want the power to be racist without being called racist. It's the same reason so many of them are legitimately fucking rapists.

Just like rape, it's not about sex, it's about power and control. They get off on the expression of power over others, whether its rape or anything else, anything where they can lord it over you, make you feel small, ashamed, and like you must do what they say because they have power over you. They fucking revel in it, and the lies about how they're not racist are to support that. Everything is a means to an end. That end is the Handmaid's Tale or worse. That's why they don't actually care about being racist, because racism itself is just an extension of having power over other people. It's just a racial way of dominance and control, it's just one of many ways to exert power over others and dominate them. The bottom line is it is always about power and control.

Further, I would blame the media landscape of the last 50 years, which has done a piss poor job of defining what a racist is, using the most extreme character tropes imaginable, so that actual racists can say to themselves "well I'm not like that wild caricature of a racist like Ulfric Stormcloak, so therefore I'm not racist."


As to your main point, I agree, there's enough terrible fucking people in the USA (and the world) to make this freak President again.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically this. There's a lot of racists who assume that since they're not burning a cross or lynching every Black person they meet, they're JUST NOT RACISTS.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

You'd think Wolfenstein of all games would get this right, but no, their Nazis are obscenely over the top caricatures as well.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago

Them wanting power and control is why it’s so effective to laugh at them and call them weird. It takes away their power and reminds them they’re unpopular little freaks.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums

My favorite part is the reason this dumb fuck says that is he doesn't understand what "political asylum" is.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Having to wake up every morning and put my trust in people is the hardest thing I do everyday. I so very much want to believe there is good in everyone but all I have to do is look and I see what's inside of many Americans hearts is hideous. So when I look at my burger and it doesn't seem quite right, I'm suspicious. When I leave my car I lock the doors twice to make sure it's really locked. I don't keep anything personal in my work space, nothing I would care about losing. Nothing that means anything to me. When I am going through a rough patch I bottle it up inside. When my heart is as full as I can barely stand I pretend everything is just fine.

This is how I live and I wonder why I can't connect with anyone. I'm always afraid that right behind my neighbors eyes there is a monster and I assume they think the same of me.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

To so many conservatives racism doesn't exist.

There was one recently where an anchor or something was racist to Vivek and you could see his face drop.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That wasn't the media, that was everyone, to be fair. I voted for him in the first term, and I was very vocal about him dropping out.

But yeah, it's crazy that there isn't a chorus of GOP folks demanding the same.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He can't. Biden dropped out before the convention, he wasn't yet nominated or accepted it. Trump is the nominee.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Because he's never set a precedent that flew in the face of accepted norms...

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (4 children)

What would happen if he did drop out? Have we ever had a presidential election that went uncontested?

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago

I guess JD Couchfucker would take over. So, yeah, pretty close to uncontested. Even the crazies don't like him.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The republicans would have to find someone new, really quickly.

Trump will never drop out though.

[–] cranakis@reddthat.com 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

But the cheeseburgers could catch up to him at any moment. He's old AF and looks to be in terrible shape.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

That would be sooo awesome.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Believe it or not, he's lost a lot of weight in the past year. He must be laying off the Big Macs (and/or downing amphetamines)

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even if true, I refuse to believe it was intentional.

He doesn't look like he has lost any weight.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

He does to me. I first noticed it last month, then I googled it and people had first started talking about it last spring. There is a lot of speculation he's on Ozempic, but it's also possible he just learned how to shut his pie hole.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Could be stress from the felony cases. Hopefully he dies of it.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

GLP1's working on a lot of people.

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can they though? RFK has been forced to stay on ballots in a few states because it's too late to drop out. States like MI is one and it would be a automatic win for Harris since ballots can't change.

[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

it would be a automatic win for Harris since ballots can’t change.

That sounds premature.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I believe from memory (and I'd have to research this myself again) that while the ballots wouldn't change, whoever the GOP has running in his place would win the spot. You can't just win an election because your opponent disappears.

[–] odelik@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Each state would have to decide for themselves how it works.

And yes, candidates win all the time due to their opposition dropping out, dying, etc etc. But TMK, has never happened with a presidential election.

[–] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would LOVE to see Trump drop out for whatever reason, and then the GOP has a vote like they did for the speaker of the house to see who takes his place. The drama of all the wackos that 1/2 of even the GOP worst dislike, mixed with all the opportunist bottom feeders, all trying to battle it out to lead the party in the new power vacuum of "yes men/women" would be just pay-per-view level entertainment.

[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or if he doesn't drop out, it will still be worth watching Trump getting weaker and weaker while the vultures are circling.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I think this is what they're hoping for: Trump holds on until the election, then kicks the bucket a month into office so Vance, a far more naked and coherent authoritarian, can take his place and start signing whatever he wants, with little to no fanfare or recognition because he's happy to just have power.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Oh look what you did: you made Kevin McCarthy cry. I hope you're proud of yourself.

Well done!

[–] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He could drop out, but his name would still be on the ballots like RFK Jr. Rs would have to run a write-in campaign, and that's asking a lot from the average republican voter

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s probably too late to change candidates to a new one, so they’re stuck with Vance. Their best hope would be to parachute in someone charismatic and with appeal to a plausible “silent majority” of conservative-leaning voters à la Reagan, or at least someone who can keep his skinsuit on properly when in public. Given the way that from 2016, if not the Tea Party era, onwards, Republicans have either been primaried out of politics for being “RINOs” or else drunk deeply of the Kool-Aid and embraced the spiral of radicalism to keep up, there aren’t many plausible candidates who haven’t abased themselves.

So the Republicans would be thoroughly screwed, at least if they didn’t have the Electoral College, the Supreme Court, gerrymandering, voter suppression, the backing of billionaires and all the dirty tricks Putin and Musk between them can muster. As it stands, they may have to fight dirtier than they planned, with uncertain results.

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I would agree with your thinking that it's probably too late - look at RFK, he narrowly got his name off of North Carolina ballots, they have to reprint a fuck ton of them.

He wasn't so lucky in Michigan, the Michigan Supreme Court ruled he must stay on the ballot.

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Or how he’s SO OLD and DEMENTIC and will die any moment. Fragile snowflake Republicans.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It’s far more entertaining, clickworthy, and they will earn far more billions from watching him slowly crumble all the way to election day, and watching him throw a tantrum afterwards.

And who knows? We could have another January 6 on our hands, and they could earn so so much money selling advertising during the airing of that.

These people are fucking disgusting, and they’ll stop at nothing, I repeat nothing, to earn ad revenue off of every iota of your attention.