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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 227 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Donald's whimpering rebuttal of "but but I saw it on TV" objectively did the most damage to his image of everything I have seen to date.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 89 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 months ago

That's insulting to 5-year-olds. Many of them can actually complete sentences before going on to the next thought.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Especially from the guy who made the phrase “Fake news” famous.

He’s definitely sundowning.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It still blows me away that he managed to take over the term “fake news”.

It was introduced as a way to explain how social media was leading gullible people into MAGA, but he turned it into a term for persecution of MAGA by conventional media.

It was actually an incredible move. I can’t think of anything he’s spun that well since 2016.

[–] kofe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure Hitler or Mussolini popularized the term (Hitlers translation was closer to "lying press) originally to discredit journalists, socialists, scientists... Etc. Trump has been reported to have Mein Kampf on his bedside table, but I need to actually read it myself to confirm how much of his playbook comes from it. He for sure targets vulnerable, innocent groups (immigrants, women, LGBTQ, etc.). He eroded public infrastructure, attempting to privatize it where he could.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Not Mein Kampf, it was a book of translated Hitler speeches.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 56 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My favorite moment from the whole thing was when Harris offhandedly mentioned that his rallies were bad, and he spent a full minute of his rebuttal time insisting that his rallies were awesome, then started arguing with the moderators when they fact checked him. You could see that that, above everything else that went on, rankled him. It really highlighted the narcissism.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The highlight for me for the whole debate was not Trump's pet-eating outburst but the perfect setup and execution Harris did to bait him into that unhinged rant instead of talking about immigration.

She "invites" people to go to Trump rallies. She follows up the point about people leaving rallies early with a note along the lines of: you're about to watch Trump not talk about you. Sure enough, he fell into the trap, and Trump talked about what he cared about most at that moment.

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 29 points 2 months ago

It took him like 2 minutes to do everything she said, right in front of him, that he would

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go back and watch Trump. His eyeballs pop when she says attendees are leaving out of exhaustion and boredom.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Buttons pushed.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd say it is when he suggested migrants were eating people's pets 😅

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

That was all part of the same response and fact check sequence.

[–] Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 12 points 2 months ago

The thing is, he looked visibly confused. As if he truly believes that the things he sees on TV are absolute truth.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I was watching it through Dylan Burns stream on it and he said trump sounded like an angry five year old.

Edit: said not sayed, fucken Redneck accent fucken up my spelling.

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yeah this is one of those typos that you can hear ^^

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

What was it? “The people on TV said it!”

He sounded exactly like my grandmother with dementia the day I walked into her room to her freaking out about the postman stealing her cheerios.

[–] danh2os@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You misspelled refuttal. Orange you embarrassed?