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[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 268 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It's also just an outright lie. But, I guess that doesn't matter anymore.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 178 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's not all electric, some of the train is just regular matter

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wait until you learn how molecular bonds work...

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

this is the internet I don't learn

[–] az04@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You could learn this internet if you decided to.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

dont make me tap the sign

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago

The founding principle behind chatGPT.

[–] endlessvoid@lemmy.today 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure that part's electric, but what about the bonds keeping the quarks of the train together?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Don't respond to this @NaibofTabr@infosec.pub, he's trying to get your grand unified theory before you publish.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

So it does matter?

[–] Thrashy@lemmy.world 95 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

I did a little digging and it seems like there's a tiny kernel of fact at the core of this giant turd of a hype-piece, and that is the fact that they electrified this little spur line from Berlin to the new German Tesla factory by using a battery-electric trainset. Which is not a terrible solution for electrifying a very short branch line that presumably doesn't need frequent all-day service, even if it's a bit of a janky approach compared to overhead lines. But hand that off to the overworked, underpaid twenty-two-year old gig worker they've got doing "editing" at Yahoo for two bucks an article, and I guess it turns into "world-first electric wonder train amazes!"

For a second, though, I read the headline and wondered if Musk and co. had finally looped all the way around to reinventing commuter rail from first principles after all these years of trying to "disrupt" it with bullshit ideas like Hyperloop and Tunnels, But Dumber.

[–] fuzzy_feeling@programming.dev 71 points 2 months ago

it's the Mireo Plus B from siemens. it's already in use in the north of germany since march of this year.
https://www.nordbahn.de/blog/so-isses/der-norden-begruesst-die-akku-zuege/

there's nothing elon about this train, just that it's driving to his factory.

they are great for short distances that are difficult to electrify.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I guess if by a kernel of truth you mean an existing train was used on an existing track, then you could almost make it make sense? But since all of this existed before, it's just a lie.

I'll also point out that anybody introducing battery electric trains instead of just electrifying the remaining parts of rail is making an astoundingly bad choice, but that's almost certainly Germany and not Tesla.

[–] superkret 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I could see why they would do it specifically in this case.

There's been huge protests against building the Gigafactory in Brandenburg, and the main instrument of the opponents was using Germany's strict environmental protection laws against it.
If they needed to cut down more trees along the tracks to electrify the line, the opponents could possibly delay that by suing in court, demanding studies be done, maybe finding an endangered ant species somewhere in the area.

Running the train on batteries avoids that.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

They could have just illegally cut down the trees like they illegally used too much water, or any of the other things they did against their agreement with the government.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think you realise how expensive electrifying a line can be, it can be as expensive as building it in the first place. Whereas this technology can be used without modifying the track at all.

If the line only runs a few times a day, it's an obvious choice.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I do realize. I also realize things like weight of the train, cost of the battery packs, the fact those packs will wear and need to be replaced faster than anything else in the system, and much more.

[–] Quik@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago

Honestly, I’d be more than happy if they just invented regular trains (even if their version would probably worse in ways not even imaginable as of now), because that would mean more money in train infrastructure.

So… yeah, you did it! You built something really cool and completely new! And don’t look over there, that’s just… copycats?

[–] cheddar@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I laos looked into this and it seems you are right. This article is such a mess.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Laos mentioned! 🇱🇦

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah but it's also far from new technology. Germany is mostly electrified rail, and having BE sets to bridge areas is not uncommon (in southern Germany you also get diesel electric combo units).

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's yahoo news. It's pure clickbait. Idk why they do this they have some decent other services.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yahoo! News is an aggregator like MSN (and has very few original articles), and thus the quality varies widely based on the source. Here it's some outlet called TCD.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Just checked something and it makes me wonder if they struck different deals than MSN:

View, say, a Business Insider article on MSN, and use the share button, and it will share the article hosted on Business Insider. Do the same on Yahoo and it shares the same Yahoo News URL that you were reading it on.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not a lie! It's technically the first thing anybody was stupid enough to name "giga train"!

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

You and I both know someone somewhere was that stupid before Musk. He isn't even original in what an idiot he is. 😆