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[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If we had a normal election I'd be voting 3rd party because of the Dem's unwavering support for Israel with a genocide happening there. Unfortunately our choice is like choosing between a shit sandwich or pureed cauliflower for dinner. Pureed cauliflower sounds disgusting but when so many people are going to choose the shit sandwich I better vote for Cauliflower so I don't eat shit

[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a great idea. Since this country began, a 3rd party candidate has never won the Presidency. And that's because everyone but you understands that in a First Past the Post system, voting for a third party candidate will ONLY ever benefit the party you least want to see elected, whether you are in a "normal" election or not.

Unwavering support < are you a liar or just ignorant? The Dems are the only party with members that DON'T support Israel. The Republicans are the party with unwavering support, and they fucking LOVE it when a liberal throws away their vote.

I wonder how many Republicans read comments like yours and just start belly laughing?

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

A 3rd party vote is a vote for neither but with a nod toward where we'd like to head. I loath the DNC just slightly more than the old RNC. With the RNC becoming a MAGA party, I could never vote for one of their candidates. When our vote is fascism or a DNC status quo I'll plug my nose like I did for Hillary and vote for whoever the DNC puts up. I'd really like to see the non DNC preferred candidate win the primary in 2028 and have the progressive arm of the party have significant clout.
And yes, the DNC has unwavering support for Israel. What more proof do you need than Biden still sending weapons to them while a genocide is taking place? The Prog wing in the party is a great voice, but they have little clout and AIPAC has been effective at getting them out.

[–] noevidenz@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I totally appreciate your sentiment and generally agree, but with the caveat that the problem you're facing is not just a problem with this current election, but an inherent issue with your electoral system.

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I always thought a parliamentary system made more sense so we could vote for parties that aligned more closely with our ideals and our ideals for our nation. France is currently showing how the divide between right wing nationalism, the leave it as it is people, and those who want more social and economic equity can still lead to deadlock as much as a 2 party system can. The powerful are so powerful now and our information is controlled by so few, with so little social responsibility or regard for the media as a watchdog over the powerful. They are the powerful trying to keep us in the dark.

[–] JIMMERZ@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

This is a good way of putting it.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More like a shit sandwich and a shit sundae.

[–] graeghos_714@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not imo. One side wants to kill me with no regulations on air, water, and food so a shit sandwich would be acceptable to them if it lines their benefactors pockets. The other side may want to get me to eat cauliflower because not only is it good for me but it lines their benefactors pockets

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

no cauliflower just shit.