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[–] tux0r 16 points 2 months ago (4 children)

even though Rust is objectively better.

In some of its characteristics, Rust is certainly a good language. The borrow checker, however, still haunts my restless dreams today.

[–] pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io 32 points 2 months ago

The borrow checker is exactly what the kernel needs.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm a C/C++ dude but I heard it being called the "Karen compiler". It doesn't look that scary based on samples I've seen, but there's way more to it I am assuming.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago

I'm no Rust expert, but in my experience the borrow checker is a pain for a bit, then you start to get a sense of what works and what doesn't, and after a while it has taught you to write cleaner code.

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Karen compiler" is almost perfect, except unlike Karens, the compiler is delightfully helpful with the error messages it gives you (usually). It usually gives a straightforward error, an error code, and sometimes, an easy fix.

As someone that started with Rust, but just yesterday had to fix some C++ code, working with any other compiled language makes me shudder. I have nothing but respect for devs that have to wade through stuff like that.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

To be fair, most of them aren't as nasty as C++. But Rust certainly gives you a sense of security you don't get with most other languages.

[–] shy_mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

At least it has something to complain about, unlike Karens.

[–] tux0r 0 points 2 months ago

Ha, I'll steal that! "Karen compiler" - quite fitting, to be honest.

[–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Oh, so the main reason why it's so good?

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

I'm not a software dev (I'm a SysEng), and have never touched Rust (I've looked at the Rust source code and it scares me haha), but I know a fair amount of Go, and even the Go compiler is a pain in the ass occasionally. I've "mother fucked" it so many times.