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This comment was in response to someone expressing regret about joining .ml if I recall correctly

Edit: I'm convinced all this guy does is camp out in front of his computer and wait for an excuse to abuse what itty bitty power he has.

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[–] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 83 points 2 months ago (6 children)
  1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.

I'm not seeing it, unless website admins are a marginalised class.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bigotry is when you hurt an admin's feelings, of course.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If any Lemmy.ml mods or admins are reading this:

Fuck you. Ban me, bitch.
[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago

They won't see it because they censor no-no words.

These same people insist that like-minded adults talking things out will produce a stateless utopia. It's funny, from a distance.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The lemmy.ml admins who do this kind of thing are proud tankies. Pro-Russia, Pro-China, Pro-North-Korea, authoritarian "communists" are a marginalized class, dontcha know?

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I can somehow understand pro-China and less so, but still conceptionally grasp pro-Russia. But how on Earth can you really think NK is not a brainwash concentration camp?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Tankies operate on a very simple belief system.

US bad > Russia don't like US > Russia good

same for north korea, cuba, anything

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

We could call that the Chomsky fallacy.

[–] AccountMaker@slrpnk.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I remember seeing to mod in the post commenting on someone's mention of North Korea. First he posted an image detailing the deaths caused by the US and South Korea during the Korean war, and that was it, no mention about NK specifically. Later he said that there was no proof that NK is brutally repressing its citizens. Then when someone said how everyone who fled NK said so, he said how they only do it for the shock value to get stories out and make money out of that, or something like that.

Basically people like that find anything anti-US as good, and if you say anything bad about those countries, they'll ask for proof and then call whatever you provide fake.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 months ago

Later he said that there was no proof that NK is brutally repressing its citizens.

lmao

I also don't see anything when I close my eyes and plug my ears.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Basically, "capitalism bad = anything anti-capitalism good." And that's pretty ironic to both support both NK and China for that reason, since China is an authoritarian capitalist state operating under the name of communism.

[–] bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

I'm actually glad MLs have ramped up the pro north korea talk recently. I was starting to doubt being against these users that claim to be progressive, but then I saw them defend a clear-cut present-day dictatorship.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

If you want rationality, don't look for it from tankies.

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are, they are admins on a .ml instance, being against them is abelism.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not just any admin. Pretty sure that's the lead dev of lemmy and the jerboa android client.

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't really matter. And knowing about how bad the lemmy back end works and the absolute lack of admin and mod tools its just further evidence of their inability.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Oh, I definitely wasn't saying that to imply it somehow makes them better, more that I would hope someone of that level of importance to this shit would learn to just run/build it and stay mostly hands off, not to play in the dirt. At the very least hide behind a separate user name.

So many open source projects get ruined because the creators/maintainers can't stop themselves from getting into fights with their users or community.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

ableism
discrimination in favor of able-bodied people.

That still doesn't check out... unless you're implying they have cognitive impairments that prevent them from moderating as effectively as other instance admins 🤔

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 5 points 2 months ago

Well yeah. If you couldn't deduce that, you might be a victim of ableism yourself

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Excellent deduction, Watson. Confirming the validity of my clarification that you had intended to make an insult. You'll be a full-fledged detective in no time.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think that technically speaking, under Marxist theory, admins are the oppressors/tyrants. The users are the proletariat. Of course the metaphor falls apart due to how easily the users can escape and the users don't pay taxes or anything

[–] YourPrivatHater@ani.social 5 points 2 months ago

There was rumors that the .ml bouble is China funded. So they kinda are paid for by taxes if true.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Rule 1 and 2 are often swapped across different instances.