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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 255 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Oh I didnt realise Jordan Peterson had come out as trans! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

[–] casmael@lemm.ee 52 points 1 month ago
[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Hmm he still uses he/him so it's beyond me but maybe he's just on another level of transatude that we haven't unlocked yet

He's a non-binary boymoder. Lots of "traditionalist" friends and family, you see, so he's taking his time to test the waters and hasn't even changed pronouns yet. Please be patient with him πŸ™

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 149 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i don't know what's more pathetic: a) that a grown ass man still makes /c/iamverybadass threats on the internet; or b) that there are grown ass men who actually think he's tough

[–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 62 points 1 month ago

People who think Jordan Peterson is very badass.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 101 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Listen, everyone. It's so simple. We just need a neutral word to describe people who are not trans. Okay, the prefix "trans" is Latin for across, so the Latin word for not across is… you're not going to believe this.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 62 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

ok ok maybe that's not familiar enough as a prefix so it gets a reaction. we could find a familiar prefix to note that your gender is the same as what you were assigned at birth...

from now on the opposite of transgender is... homogender!

[–] Phunter@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 89 points 1 month ago (14 children)

I don’t understand why some people get so bent out of shape over the term cisgender. Latin prefixes are even more common in English than abbreviations like AMAB.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just transphobia. If you don't have cis (wo)men and trans (wo)men, then you just have (wo)men and trans (wo)men, which implies that trans (wo)men are not (wo)men.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Got it. I didn’t understand because they make it seem like it’s an insult to be called cisgender. They’re actually just upset that it removes an avenue of bigotry.

Fucking gross.

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[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The reasoning is simple: it's just straight up transphobia. The term "cis" is just a neutral descriptor to pair with "trans" with no implication of being right or wrong. They're mad at the existence of a term for the majority that doesn't imply an insult to the minority.

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[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 78 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's so funny when right wing talking heads decide to go for the tough guy routine.

It makes me want to call him cis to his face on camera, and then let him do whatever he wants.

At best he humiliates himself by proving that he can't do shit about what you say to him. At worst he assaults you and you get to ride the "I got assaulted by Jordan Peterson" train for a while.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 71 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

The other side of his comment is that he is willing to be pulled into a physical struggle over being labeled a gender.

What a weakass anti-philosopher / anti-therapist.

Patient: "Doctor, I feel like my coworkers are labeling me ... what should I do ?"

Dr Peterson: "Have you considered beating them to death ?"

what a fucking loon

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago

Someone is clearly uncomfortable in their body.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 43 points 1 month ago

Is he/she saying they transitioned?

How wonderful!

[–] Dasnap@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Poor snowflake can't handle three little letters :(

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Imagine needing to other someone so badly that you have a tantrum because someone created a name for the "default" category. Peterson views trans people as so subhuman he doesn't even want there to be a word for non-trans people.

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[–] pickman_model@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Is the term 'cis' an insult now? Or am I not spending enough time reading people whining over politics?

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 54 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bigoted reactionaries, like Elon and Jordan, want to make cis a slur so they can ban its usage and prevent inclusive vocabulary. They're not actually offended by it.

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[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Transphobes have been trying to turn it into one for a while, so they can play victim about it.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago

Culture war nonsense. Try not to spend much time at all if you can.

They'll pick anything to get more airtime. I remember them going after Jill Biden for using the prefix Dr but not in the medical sense.

They don't believe the words they're saying and playing this fake intellectual debate to keep attacking the liberals.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago

Not really, but there are some particularly crazy/militant/extreme people in the left and trans community who use it like it is.

Often not on it's own, usually in phrases like "cishet white male". Usually implying that the simple existence of this particular combination of uncontrollable personal traits is inherently problematic. Sometimes outright stating it. Sometimes literally calling for genocide or eugenics, or saying that it is entirely impossible to be a cishet white male and also be a good person.

It's the type of behavior that young men see that drives them into shit like Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson, etc.

I'd imagine the people saying these things think it is fair or payback for the sexists, racists, bigots, etc that call for the same for their group. Payback for the reprehensible behavior they have had to endure. Hearing similar things directed at them may have driven them into the arms of extremist shit stirrers on their side.

Makes for a shitty, shitty cycle of reciprocal attack on people defined as "other".

Personally, I don't think the target makes a difference. It's reprehensible behavior either way. Go find a healthier output for your hurt. There are times where being the bigger person or taking the high road is not effective, but that should never be the assumed default or a situation to look forward to.

All that said, anyone arguing that those extremists are somehow leaders in the wider community is more interested in fanning the flames than anything else.

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[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago

Oh, so you're trans? Okay, will call you that, then.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (15 children)

I have never heard cis being used as a slur.

[–] weker01@feddit.de 32 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I actually have. Mind I don't have a problem with the word in particular but I've read it used as a slur on the Internet and in real life.

It's all about intention imo. Many people use it just to clearly communicate but some also use it with hatred.

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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Botox in the brain. Not even once.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It wasn't Botox tho, right?

Like the dude who's all about "personal responsibility" couldn't man up and make it thru benzo detox got put in a coma to avoid it in a eastern European hospital because no one else would risk it

Then they couldn't bring him out of the coma and he got brain damage.

But did he really get Botox in the brain to intentionally cause the coma?

Like, that just sounds even more insane...

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[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago

did he just come out as trans ?

Look a lot of us wish we weren't cis but them's the breaks

[–] Jimbo@yiffit.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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