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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 1 points 8 months ago

My Culture is not your prom dress 2: electric boogaloo.

As a chinese, you're welcome to do so. It's Lunar new year, there's nothing special or specific about it. Pop a beer, play firework, or whatever. Make up your culture for celebrate the new year, that's how culture is born! There's not even a standard for it in China, different region have different way to celebrate. And each household even have their own way to celebrate! How is any of this gatekeeping make sense i don't know.

It's so sad to see a melting pot now call for separation.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I mean, it's not like there aren't large communities of Asian immigrants all over the world. In most countries, and definitely the English speaking ones, I almost guarantee your country celebrates it somewhere. Beyond all the other problems with this, it erases the experiences of Asian immigrants, I live in the US and I know for a fact there's going to be tons of celebrations here for it organized by people whose cultures it is.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nearly 2% of all Japanese people live in Brazil, for instance, so yeah.

[–] MufinMcFlufin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Chicago area has more people of Polish descent than Poland.

[–] h34d@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

According to Wikipedia, the Chicago metropolitan area has a population of about 10 million people, far less than Poland's 38 million, which makes your claim completely impossible from the start. In fact, according to other articles, it seems that there are about 185 000 people of Polish descent living in Chicago (less than half a percent of the population of Poland), and a bit less than 10 million in the entire US (which is significant compared to the population of Poland, but still "only" about a quarter). And this article claims that there are "roughly 20 000 000 people of Polish ancestry living outside Poland" [in total], which is still less than the population of Poland.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Racism from the left is just so unexpected, but here we are

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Overprotectiveness. It's irritating and misguided, but it isn't bigotry.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It is. I'll elaborate. The neonazis in France, Germany, Hungary, and other places with a growing nazi problem are calling for ethnostates. One country per ethnicity. No cultural exchange, no learning from other cultures, no exchange and most of all absolutely no exchange of people.

Now if you take the idiotic idea of "cultural appropriation" to its natural conclusion, you arrive at very nearly the same idea. Hermetically closed cultures separate from each other, no exchange. Everyone only gets to enjoy the culture they happen to be born in.

This is why it is racist. Because the separation of peoples and cultures is a racist idea.

Humanity absolutely thrives when cultures mix. The whole is so much more than the sum of its parts. Racism and bigotry cease to exist the more cultures and peoples mix. And I mean mix, not live separate lives that just happen to be in the same geographic location, just to be clear.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Now if you take the ~~idiotic~~ idea of "cultural appropriation" to ~~its natural conclusion~~ a ridiculous extreme, you arrive at very nearly the same idea

Fixed that for you.

Opposition to cultural insensitivity and reducing cultures to exploitable stereotypes ≠ advocating for segregation and only idiots and people arguing in bad faith would ever claim anything of the sort.

[–] vormadikter@startrek.website 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There was this white singer that got uninvited by fff here in Germany because she wore dreadlocks. Cant have that when you are white it seems. No logical reason necessary, too. Can just brand it "cultural appropriation" and you're good. Oh shit, there is prove that greeks or wikings had dreadlocks? Nae, just gonna ignore that cause it doesnt fit my stereotypical views of the world.

The argument might seem overstreched, but shit like this happens.

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

and yet Carola Rackete was a welcomed visitor of fff. i didn't understand the reasoning behind the singer thing.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"humanity absolutely thrives when cultures mix".

Yea, this part is correct.

The rest, not so much.

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm interested in your opinion. Do you care to elaborate?

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not OP but I would say one difference is the fact that they don't mind that people of different ethnicity live in the same country, but they don't want them to mix what's part of their culture... Or if we're honest, in most cases they want the majority to not adopt things that are associated to other cultures because they assume that it's done with bad intentions or that's it's a form of theft, but I'm sure they wouldn't say a thing if a minority did the same...

So they're in favor of a world where whites are exposed to everyone else (contrary to the right) but don't mix up with them, not as a way to keep them "pure" (contrary to the right), but as a way to stop them from "stealing" from other cultures what makes them unique...

Either way, it's stupid 🤷

[–] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

but as a way to stop them from “stealing” from other cultures

It's not possible to steal culture, this is ridiculous

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Self-identification is such a bizzare polarized issue. On one side, you have sexual self-identification being embraced by the same people who bemoan cultural self-identification. I don't understand this cognitive dissonance. Alas.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

you have sexual self-identification being embraced by the same people who bemoan cultural self-identification

citation needed