Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeyfuckthenewyorktimeseeesssssss
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Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeyfuckthenewyorktimeseeesssssss
Yeah, this is scary, but that’s literally the 2nd amendment
I highly doubt it'll be well-regulated and used to defend the federal government like the ones the 2a refers to, though..
They’re training them to protect federal infrastructure and they’re still subject to gun regulations. I think it will be a political tool used to oppress the citizenry, so not the spirit of the law, but the letter.
They’re training them to protect federal infrastructure
No matter who's president? Because fighting off rebellions was a big part of what those militias were used for.
they’re still subject to [current] gun regulations
It's WELL-regulated, not "barely regulated at all with little to no enforcement to speak of"
No matter who's president? Because fighting off rebellions was a big part of what those militias were used for.
Ostensibly. They’re obviously lying, but that’s what they say.
It's WELL-regulated, not "barely regulated at all with little to no enforcement to speak of"
It’s my understanding that the extant gun laws are legally considered to fulfill this requirement, otherwise private gun ownership wouldn’t be possible. Personally I disagree, but I’m not sure what standard would otherwise be used.
I do hope you’re correct, but I don’t trust the US government to adhere to common sense anymore. I guess we’ll see what the court says, because someone’s going to challenge this.
Or maybe he’ll get voted out in November and this will be disbanded before anything happens with it. I think that’s probably the best option, because then it doesn’t get a chance to be approved by this SCOTUS and nobody has to have their civil rights violated by this group.
otherwise private gun ownership wouldn’t be possible
That's the point right there: it was never about private guns for private use. That's a fiction (in both the legal sense and the colloquial one) that conservative activist judges on the SCOTUS invented to please the people bribing them.
I do hope you’re correct, but I don’t trust the US government to adhere to common sense anymore
That's the problem with legal fictions: they don't have to be correct or even make sense. If people of sufficient authority says it is so, it legally us so 😮💨
I don’t trust the US government to adhere to common sense anymore
Me neither.
Yeah, I was interpreting it under the lens of current legal application, not reality. In reality, it’s a group of people who want to violently oppress their fellow citizens through any means possible.
Fuck pay walls, here's the article:
Bruce Blakeman, the Nassau County executive, is recruiting “special deputies” to deploy during disaster or unrest. Opponents say the move is dangerous. Portrait of George Blakeman. Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman has depicted his community as under siege.Credit...Johnny Milano for The New York Times
The leader of a New York City suburb is recruiting 75 armed citizens, many of them former police officers, for a force of “special deputies” to be activated whenever he chooses.
Nassau County Executive Bruce Blakeman, a Republican who has allied himself with former President Donald J. Trump and thrust himself into the culture wars, posted a call in March for residents with gun permits and an interest in becoming “provisional emergency special deputy sheriffs.”
The posting called the initiative a strategy to assist in the “protection of human life and property during an emergency” such as a hurricane or blackout — and perhaps, Mr. Blakeman later added, “a riot.”
The new force has drawn vocal opposition in this well-to-do Long Island county, which is one of the country’s safest, protected by one of the largest police departments. It has plunged Nassau into a national debate about authoritarianism in an election season that some see as a fork in the road for American democracy.
Mr. Blakeman said in an interview that the program was about “providing another layer of protection” for residents. “I didn’t want to be in a situation where we had a major emergency and we needed help and people were not properly vetted or trained,” he said.
But critics have accused him of creating, with little notice or explanation, an unsanctioned militia answering only to him. They called the move especially dangerous amid heightened fears of political violence, and as Mr. Trump promulgates plans for mass deportations and quashing dissent.
Sabine Margolis, an I.T. program manager from Great Neck, said that Mr. Blakeman was using the pretext of an emergency response team to create a “clandestine armed presence.” Her online petition called “Stop Bruce Blakeman’s Personal Nassau County Militia” has received more than 2,600 signatures, and opponents have held rallies pillorying both the program and the lack of details on training, scope of recruitment and parameters of the deputies’ duties.
Mr. Blakeman dismissed criticism that the program is politically motivated, but it has provoked a more forceful reaction than his previous provocations. He has railed against bail reform, migrants and mask mandates, has called Democrats like Gov. Kathy Hochul soft on crime and has portrayed Nassau County as besieged by lawlessness — and used neighboring New York City as a cautionary example.
But Mr. Blakeman’s opponents say that giving police powers to civilian gun owners could result in accidental shootings and is an implied threat to minorities and political enemies.
“It’s fear-mongering, and it’s very damaging to people,” said Delia DeRiggi-Whitton, the Democratic minority leader of the County Legislature.
“It’s the opposite way we want to be going, a private militia with guns,” she said. “We’re trying to work on gun control, rather than promote them.”
Mr. Blakeman said he created the force so that “in an emergency, if we required them to protect infrastructure or government buildings or schools or hospitals, that would free up our police.”
Of roughly 100 applicants so far, about 25 have already been trained, Mr. Blakeman said, and he plans to train 50 more. His office would not provide applicants’ names but described the backgrounds of nearly a score of members — a mix of retired police officials, former veterans and other emergency responders and one bank chairman.
Enrollees receive training in the law, on firearms and on the use of deadly force, Mr. Blakeman has said. Preference goes to retired police officers, military veterans and security guards.
A spokesman said that the county pays members their $150 daily stipend from tax dollars only when they are activated for emergencies, that they use their own guns and that there is a list of permissible firearms.
Mr. Blakeman said that the program was not a militia and called the gun-control argument “ridiculous.” Being armed, he said, is crucial in an emergency.
“How could you protect infrastructure if you’re not armed?” he said, adding, “What should we do? Hide under the covers?”
The issue of the new force grew particularly contentious after Mr. Blakeman acknowledged in April that the deputies could be activated to patrol chaotic demonstrations. When a WPIX reporter asked whether he could declare a political protest an emergency, he said, “if the riot was to a level where they were burning buildings.”
Asked about the comment in an interview this week, Mr. Blakeman said that protests would be left to the police. Of the special deputies program, he said, “Of course, it would not be used for political purposes.”
Neither the county sheriff nor police responded to requests for comment.
In New York, a county executive officially administers budgets and taxes, and services like roads and parks. But the job can also be a way station for higher office, and Mr. Blakeman, in office since 2022, appears regularly on Fox News and other outlets.
His championship of red-meat issues has endeared him to conservative voters in the county of 1.4 million residents. Although Democrats hold a slight edge over Republicans as registered voters there, Mr. Blakeman defeated the incumbent, Laura Curran, partly by campaigning on a promise to “restore law and order.”
In February, Mr. Blakeman made national headlines with an executive order banning transgender athletes from playing on county-owned fields unless they competed on a coed team or the one matching their birth gender. In May, a judge ruled that Mr. Blakeman lacked the authority to issue the order. The next month the Republican-controlled County Legislature voted along party lines to enact it as law.
Jay Jacobs, the Democratic Party chairman for both Nassau County and New York State, accused Mr. Blakeman of using such issues to distract voters from his lack of progress on cutting property taxes and fees and fixing the property assessment system.
“This is all to solidify his extreme right-wing base,” Mr. Jacobs said. “Instead of solving the county’s problems, he’s appealing to the right wing by speaking the language they like: militia, guns, law and order.”
“There is no problem he is looking to solve,” Mr. Jacobs added. “Does he think we’re going to be invaded by Suffolk County?”
Critics say Mr. Blakeman’s plan reflects intimations of violence by Mr. Trump and his allies. Mr. Trump has said that shoplifters should be shot; suggested that his supporters might commit violence if the Supreme Court ruled against him; and refused to rule out political violence if he were to lose in November. He plans to deputize local law enforcement officers to carry out mass deportations of migrants.
Ms. DeRiggi-Whitton said in an interview that she had heard from Jewish residents who likened Mr. Blakeman’s initiative to the rise of Nazi forces under Hitler. One person referenced the Brownshirts, a paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party formed in the 1920s.
When Ms. DeRiggi-Whitton told reporters this in April, Mr. Blakeman, who is Jewish, called the comparison offensive and demanded her resignation.
His plan certainly has supporters, including Jennifer O’Sullivan, 51, a Republican voter who said the deputies could have helped, for instance, when houses were robbed after being evacuated for Hurricane Sandy.
“The county just wants to be prepared, and they’re not just rounding up anyone,” she said. “People with full carry permits are extremely law-abiding. They have to have a clean record and referrals regarding their character.”
Mr. Blakeman said a similar special deputy program exists in Westchester County, which is led by a Democratic county executive.
But Westchester’s chief operating officer, Joan McDonald, said that Westchester’s force, which provides support for parade and festivals, operates under a measure enacted by the State Legislature decades ago specifically for the county.
Members receive 178 hours of training, including 67 hours on firearms, in accordance with state standards for peace officers, she said. Most importantly, she said, its deputies answer to the county’s Department of Public Safety.
In a recent letter to Nassau lawmakers, Ms. McDonald wrote, “Westchester has not created a private militia, as County Executive Bruce Blakeman has done.”
Mr. Blakeman said his critics are assailing — and exaggerating — a program that will make the county safer.
“It’s a database and it’s nothing more than that,” he said. “People are trying to make it more than it is.”
The new force has drawn vocal opposition in this well-to-do Long Island county, which is one of the country’s safest, protected by one of the largest police departments
Ah, the rich American's conundrum: elect Republicans because they want to cut my taxes, but they also want to be authoritarian dictators. What to do, what to do?
I'm confident it'll be well regulated 😏
Stop calling it militias, they should be called terrorist organizations. We arent living in the 18th century any more, we don't have militias any more.
militias also had a duty to support people in emergencies, but people don't like to talk about the bill of rights containing duties to one's neighbors. Militias are almost a socialist concept.
Realistically these people have more in common with Al Quaeda than some kind of 1780s ideal of social solidarity.
I agree that the 75 are part of a terrorist organization, for sure.
The National Guard is a militia though. We don't often think about it like that but it is. Each state has it's own and imo as a sidenote, the national guard completely satisfies the 2nd amendment regardless of what the gun nuts today want the 2nd amendment to be.
That's actually interesting, I thought they were a branch of the armed forces
They are. The NG is not a militia.
they should be called terrorist organizations
Or, at the very least, "Moderate Rebels" depending on how much money the CIA gave them recently.
We do have state militias still actually, just only a couple and they're seriously for stuff like hurricane clean up.
The militias outlined in the constitution is basically the national guard. These are something else
An armed mob of belligerent citizens.
Add it to the pile along with the rest of the fascist paramilitaries associated with MAGA.
Well I get to cite this same paper twice in two days. We are on the scariest timeline for sure.
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1354571X.2021.1950340
ABSTRACT
Between 4 November 1925 and 31 October 1926, Tito Zaniboni, Violet Gibson, Gino Lucetti, and Anteo Zamboni all tried and failed to kill Benito Mussolini. The significance of these attempts on Mussolini’s life and their relationship to the establishment of Fascism has gone overlooked as much scholarship focuses almost exclusively on the consequences of socialist deputy Giacomo Matteotti’s murder in June 1924. In this article, I analyse the impact that these assassination attempts had on Mussolini’s construction of the Fascist state. The article asks two main questions: What role did these assassins, and the state of emergency that their acts generated, play in the establishment of Fascist control? And how did they contribute to Mussolini’s cult status and his consecration as a ‘man of providence’? I argue that the failed assassination attempts were instrumental in allowing the Fascist regime to create a state of emergency and to capitalize on a fabricated demand for crisis management. These attempts fundamentally structured the conditions for the regime’s consolidation of power, including a vast expansion of laws that dismantled the liberal state and established the Fascist dictatorship.
Her online petition called “Stop Bruce Blakeman’s Personal Nassau County Militia” has received more than 2,600 signatures, and opponents have held rallies pillorying both the program and the lack of details on training, scope of recruitment and parameters of the deputies’ duties.
No way that this will be used as a hit list or list of 'trouble makers'. They most certainly are safe from retribution from an unsanctioned milita (gang) they openly opposed.
Events seem to be ramping...
Yes yes, but what color are their shirts?
They went with brown for some unknown reason
But they call it "desert tan"
That loud cracking noise you just heard was the county's lawyer very soul breaking at the thought of 75 armed, endorsed by the government, not legally shielded yahoos running around.
Nah, they know what brown shirts are for
No, it’s a terrorist group.
The posting called the initiative a strategy to assist in the “protection of human life and property during an emergency” such as a hurricane or blackout — and perhaps, Mr. Blakeman later added, “a riot.”
Translation:
"Remember 2020? The next time those uppity n*****s try that shit, we'll be ready."
The Kyle Rittenhouse Battalion.
Depends on their definition of disaster or unrest.
Plane crash or hurricane: Fine.
Losing an election: Not fine.
Well he seems like a reasonable and kind fellow.
Who just happens to like his scotch and yelling at people.
Eat the billionaires.
Do you know what would really help in emergency? Save more lives? Instead of giving some yahoos a chance to brandish weapons and act out their control fantasies, train concerned citizens with emergency medical, fire and rescue training. Provide vehicles, communication and coordination, to handle evacuations, floods, fires, sudden losses of homes, environmental emergencies to supplement standard emergency personnel when currently the only option is to escalate to National Guard and wait for them to show up.
Imagine if there was arson, being able to help save lives and property, instead of acting out a control fantasy and getting to shoot people
train concerned citizens with emergency medical, fire and rescue training
Nah. Sounds too much like socialism to me.
Paywall
But is it well-regulated?
Depends how much fiber they ingest, I would suppose
Isn't this straight out of the Project 2025 playbook?
That sounds an awful lot like a militia to me.