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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 108 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, well, mission failed then.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 101 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That’s ok. You can always try again yesterday.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. If it was possible to travel from the future, we would never see a failed attempt since they would try again. Unless it was intended to be a failed attempt. :)

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Except the gunman was killed right? So he wouldn't be able to try again.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

was he "killed", or did the butterfly effect simply wipe him from existence after he accomplished his task?

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (3 children)

He didn't accomplish anything though did he?

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[–] PrimeMinisterKeyes@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe another time traveller disturbed the shooter by pushing him because what would have happened if Trump was shot dead would have been truly apocalyptic in the longer run. Maybe we just witnessed the n-th time loop without remembering the other ones and this is the first one where the bullet only grazes Trump's ear instead of blowing his brains out so now life on Earth as we know it can continue, and we can post about it on Lemmy.

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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago

I smell a groundhog loop

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

PIME TARADOX

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah well nice job fucking that one up, John Titor.

[–] Asclepiaz@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I just finished this anime and get this reference. I love being in on da me mes

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The anime you saw (which I was unfamiliar with) was based on a "real" thing- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor

[–] Asclepiaz@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Woah thanks for letting me know! If you like anime steins gate is worth a watch.

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[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Tbf, Stein's Gate grabbed a LOT of real world shannanigans to weave into their Science Fantasy plot

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 47 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It was one of the guys from X-COM. He had a 98% percent hit chance but still missed somehow.

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 46 points 4 months ago (5 children)

After seen the photo.of his bloody face I have to say, as a non american, i'm sorry for you guys and for ukrane (and the rest of the world of course, since this time things will be MUCH worst). I hope you can recover but idk if you have mich time. I don't think this wako can loose anymore

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Thanks for that. Getting messages like this from outside the U.S. means a lot. For real.

Dark times, here. They were dark yesterday, but today proves things can always be worse.

[–] formergijoe@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, as an American all I could think was this clinched the campaign for him.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He can't handle security for something like a small concert? He can't handle security for the nation. Do people really think Obama wasn't under constant threat? Please.

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

As a Canadian I'm sorry for the Americans but I'm also fucking terrified for what this means for us. We're already seeing it bleed (pun intended) into our borders and I don't think I could handle if our politics went further that way. This is gonna affect a whole lot more than Americans.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Who's bloody face? As a non-American I'm OOTL ig

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump got shot at a rally, very minor injuries, would be assassin dead

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[–] Jobe 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trump was shot at at a rally. Grazed his ear, his security escorted him off stage after a minute or so. There's a photo of him with a bloody ear, surrounded by his bodyguards, fist raised, with the flag in the background. Crazy good photo, arguably historic already.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 5 points 4 months ago

Found it, legendary photo, hope it doesn't help him become president again though

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[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 45 points 4 months ago (6 children)

This was my mostly comical thought. You know how people always say they'd go back and off Hitler? But somehow it never happened so either time travel doesn't exist, or they just always fail. We're just getting to see that in real time.

(That said, this fucker definitely changed the future so it's probably not that.)

[–] Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 25 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In my view, it would be naive to assume that killing Hitler before he became Chancellor would guarantee the prevention of the atrocities that followed, and it might even pose the risk of something worse happening. Events don't occur in a vacuum. It's similar to how dropping nukes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were horrific events in themselves, but who's to say those events aren't the reason nukes have never been used in warfare since? Preventing those bombings might have saved the people in those cities, but it also might have significantly lowered the bar for using nukes, increasing the chance of a true nuclear holocaust during the Cold War, for example.

So maybe time travel is possible, and someone did try to change history by killing Hitler, but then realized the outcome was even worse. Now, they needed an additional assassin to deal with the first one.

[–] finley@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Hiroshima and Nagasaki may have prevented the future that the video game series Fallout predicts, as that never happened in their past.

[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

There's an interesting theory that Hitler was put in place by time travelers as the last-bad option that wouldn't destroy the timeline.

Hitler (and Trump) made a number of blundering errors that any idiot should've/known better than to make. Had a competent, or even a supervillain-type been in charge, things could've turned out even worse than they did. You don't have to look far- some of these villains attach themselves to those in power. Himmler and Heydrich would've been far worse for the world, but were somewhat limited by not being the ones directly in power.

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I mean, there have been more than a dozen confirmed assassination attempts on Hitler (even suicide bomber attempts among them) and a few more unconfirmed possible attempts. The future did try their best (or just some brave people from the time itself).

[–] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 7 points 4 months ago

Do you realise how many politicians get attacked every day? Do yourself a favour and check it out. It's a lot, it's bot not the safest job in the world, many get killed. There had to be an attack by a time traveler at least once

[–] 1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

My favourite theory of time travel is that in the vast majority of timelines, travelling back in time guarantees that events will unfold as they always will, as given an infinite number of timelines in entropy there will be at least one timeline that forms a loop, and from that point effectively every timeline follows that loop. It may even be a multi-step loop, but it's still a loop and the time travel causes the events that leads to the time travel.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Time travel is possible. Changing the future however, isn't.

It has to do with wave function collapse. The cat is both alive and dead until its observed, at which point the wave function collapses to reveal which it is.

So let's say you go back in time and successfully kill Hitler. Well you're now observing that outcome from a tangent timeline. In our timeline, that wavefront has already collapsed. There's no takesies backsies. Its immutable.

If you can go back and try again, your just creating new wave funtion collapses, not changing the ones that already occurred.

Its like re-rolling a dice because you didn't like the outcome. You can re-roll as much as you want, it doesn't erase that first roll; its still there, imprinted on the quantum foam of the multi verse.

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The future will always happen.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Has always happened. Is always happening.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Or maybe the cia only has a 50% success rate.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

100% good guys 0% bad guys.

Math checks out.

[–] I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Red Dwarf is correct, Trump did it.

If not, maybe Vincent Van Gogh?

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 9 points 4 months ago

Ever seen the movie 'The Dead Zone'? Too bad Trump didn't grab a baby.

[–] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No it was someone from the past. Trump's boyfriend

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