They are just edging this bill till nobody pays attention. Democracy at work!
this post was submitted on 20 Jun 2024
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They are just delaying the vote for another time... Hoping that next time it will fly under the radar and there won't be a huge backlash of discontent.
If the vote fail, they just wait a year, rename it, and try again.
Same thing happens in the US. Law proposed that people hate, people organize, start a campaign that fights for news airtime, bringing awareness of the dickery about to happen, and then succeed after a hard battle and many many volunteer hours spent.
In 6 months Congress just renames it the "I love kittens" act and sticks it on a must pass bill.
Fighting bullshit laws is exhausting....
Don't be surprise if it reappears as an attachment to a fishing quota law or a law defining sizes for underwear...
it reappears as an attachment to a fishing quota law or a law defining sizes for underwear
Sounds very Putin.
Actually, this is a common occurance in the US and EU. One of the previous, court-captured laws actually was riding with fishing quota regulations.
Yeah, Putin doesn't have to hide anything because nobody is allowed to object to any crazy laws he invents.
It happens in the US yes, but does it happen in the EU?
As much I like the EU, politicians are politicians ...
Happy cake day!
Gosh that was a quick year! Thanks 😁
Cupcake! So sweet and tasty.
Cupcake! Don't be too hasty.
Idk about the EU(there have been cases that were exactly this, an example would be Article 13), but I can say to you, that this devinetively happens in Germany. Our conservatives party wants to pass a law, that would track and save all your online activity(Vorratsdatenspeicherung/ data preservation) to fight "paedophiles and terrorists" they bring it up once in a while, even tho, our federal court already said, that its illegal.
I’m still fucking mad the Left voted yes for this. Campaigning on a no and then turning their coats immediately after the elections. Disgraceful, and I hope whichever party members are responsible get booted.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that left mean anti-authoritarian. Left or right is an economic stance, and is orthogonal to beliefs surrounding government rights Vs population rights.
Not exactly orthogonal, left right could be viewed as an Principal Component Analysis reduced to only one axis. So there are correlations between stances but so much dimensions lost that it's nearly useless
Two dimensions is 100% better than one.
That's not true at all, mathematically. That's why we have a measurement for co-variance or correlation. If two dimensions are 100 correlation, they can most definitely be reduced to one.
...but they're not in 100 percent correlation in this case, and you're naive if you think they are .
Find the politicians by name who voted yes for this, and display them in public.
Let the capable open source community then take over going through their phones, since they must be OK with their phones being scanned, right?
Note the vote was withdrawn, not actually voted against. They're pushing this for a later date because there was no majority.
“The EU Council did not make a decision on chat control today, as the agenda item was removed due to the lack of a majority, (...)
Belgium’s draft law, (...) was instead postponed indefinitely. (...) Belgium cannot currently present a proposal that would gain a majority. In July, the Council Presidency will transfer from Belgium to Hungary, which has stated its intention to advance negotiations on chat control as part of its work program.
Can we please identify the guys always pushing encryption-breaking ideas?
And hack their phones so we can see why they want to spy on everyone else's phones
I have zero doubt that many core proponents of anti-privacy laws are pedophiles — that's why they always add measures to ensure it's illegal to invade their own privacy.
In Russia one of biggest proponent of anti-privacy laws is Milonov, which looks like pedophile ans rumored to be gay.
Great choice, now do not say the same thing next year!
I am suspicious they realized that they weren’t going to be able to make a loophole for themselves - I’ve seen several articles in the last week on how they were trying to do that.
Wasn't this rejected once already? Perhaps if they wanted to do something useful, they should pass something that says that if something is majority disliked twice or something, then it should be withdrawn and not proposed again for at least 100 years.
They will keep trying again and again and again. The assault on privacy has been going on for decades and it will never stop.
You've gotta defend for an infinite amount of time, but they've only gotta succeed once.
Yes. Technically, a similar vote could repeal the law just as easily but there is a history of governments not giving their power away easily; implementing it also sets a precedent and creates technical enforcement options for other governments willing to go through with something similar in the future, or for hackers to exploit because gov-rooted devices will remain in operation for years after the potential repeal.
Better define some basic human rights as a core tenet and fire repeat offenders, because they are a danger to the population.
Until next try in a few months.
What i read here sometime without source, that secret services since Snowden push for breaking of encryption, seems more and more plausible.