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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (5 children)

No, because Harris does not poll well and leapfrogging her to send Newsom would anger lots of people.

[–] whoreticulture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

People wouldn't be mad about the "leapfrogging", nobody gives a shit about that. People don't like Newsom though, I would be shocked if an SF based politician won a presidency.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Cool, now WSJ is publishing a pro-Biden op-ed, comparing him to....The Blessed Saint Ronnie Raygun (PBUH).

JFC, they really want to have donnie run against Biden...

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (7 children)

A great concern that not many talk about is, that he won't be getting any better during the next 4 years. Even if he wasn't old now, he'd become older while sitting in office, if he somehow managed to win.

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[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 months ago

Don't forget, he was elected by boomers in the first place. If they don't have their candidate, they might not vote.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The majority of people really like and prefer Joe Biden's policies. They didn't vote him in office to debate. Democrats have no spine and are quit willing to be lead to the loser's corner.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 5 points 2 months ago

As has always been 🥲

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[–] cyd@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Not "Democrats". One specific Democrat needs to ask that question.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (6 children)
  1. That's 2 questions.
  2. The more important question is asking how you convince Biden to step down. He has the delegates, he is the nominee if he wants to be. You could have the best candidate ever (they don't) and it wouldn't matter if you can't get Biden to step down.
[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Just play his own appearances back to him until he’s shouting at himself on screen like the rest of us

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

In the UK there are 5 independent MP's who beat both mainstream parties that won just by advocating for a ceasefire in Gaza.

Now if anyone wants to save Democracy it might be time to sack Genocide Joe and run a candidate that actually has popular policies. Because Biden will not beat Trump and that was even before he started adding Geriatric to his list of adjectives.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The irony is that if people don't vote for Biden because of his Israel policy (which has been the policy of every president before him), then Trump will win and then Gaza will be finished.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Does Biden have the best chance of beating Trump

The election is in ~3 months. Yes. Next question.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (38 children)

He's much more unpopular than any previous president that won reelection, he's literally unqualified for the job, he's in a weaker position than when he BARELY won the first time and he's refusing to change course on the main source of discontent, his active and ongoing participation in a genocide and other war crimes committed daily.

No.

Next question: Will he be replaced by one of the 50 other Democrats who could beat Donald Trump (by his own estimate) before it's too late?

I hope so, but probably not.

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Did you not pay attention to Frances election? Much shorter with much better outcomes. Maybe the year long election cycle is the problem driving turnout down in the US, which benefits republicans.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Isn't it already too late? Each state has laws about when a candidate needs to be "entered" so they can get their ballot/mail in/military ballots ready in time. I believe the earliest ballots are going out in like 2 weeks.

This would just set us up for every red state to push lawsuits and would recreate the absolute insanity that was 2020 election, except now these red states have installed "yes men" that will certify/refuse to certify whatever they are told to.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

No. The convention is the end of the road. Ohio is an exception and maybe Alabama but I don't think they'd be able to get away with keep the dem off the ballot completely.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I think most people are voting D or R at this point.

I don't think that those who are not voting that way are more likely to vote for a brown woman than an old white man.

I think Kamala is the only real option, as I don't think it is above board to transfer the campaign finances off to some other candidate, to get the word out etc.

Lastly, I think a last minute change (while would Ideally be my choice) would ultimately be challenged legally by the Republicans and it's ultimately go to the SCOTUS...

It is frustrating and sad but Biden might be our best bet... Unless there's finances available for any possible new candidacy. But again that switch will create legal challenges.

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