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[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 months ago

That's what made me refuse to use the Reddit official app before their API garbage. Every update was a gamble as to whether they'd try to make me spend money through muscle memory.

[–] Engywuck@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Switch to Linux!

As a Linux user myself, let me tell you that telling people what they should/must do this is how you make people plainly ignore you and think you're just an annoying person.

People will keep using what works for them, be it Windows/Linux/MacOS even if with minor inconveniences. Same goes for browsers/services/etc...

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

"Microsoft continually makes their OS worse, but every time they do, Linux users come into the comment section telling me I should switch, so I'm not going to."

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I for one enjoy salty Microsoft tears, just makes me feel better with my choice completely ditching them.

Keep 'em coming.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Literally what? I'm a Linux user bro

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

It wasn't directed to you, it is directed to people constantly crying about their choice

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The thing is, is that it really doesn’t affect people in the way you guys seem to imagine.

I’ve used Linux, MacOS, and Windows. Currently use Windows for work as a C# . net, SQL / GraphQL, and React TypeScript developer and although I was shocked they’re all pro windows, coming from MacOS. Once you get used to it you don’t really notice the shit stuff as you just do what you’re doing.

I would still rate my experiences in this order though: MacOS, Linux, Windows. Best to worst, but like I said even though in now use the worst in my opinion it really doesn’t have much of an impact. Plus if I were to use Linux I’d need to geek out and waste so much time configuring it and I’m past that stage.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I work in healthcate and use windows, at work and at home if I need to do work related stuff. I don't mind windows at work as it's been configured for the purpose and all the shitty bits are switched off - something Microsoft let's it's business users do. It's a decent operating system when it's set up to do what it needs to do, and I'm very familiar with it from using it since Windows 95.

I used to use windows at home and had Linux for occasional interest. But in the last few years I've moved away from windows and now I'm on Linux as my main driver on multiple devices.

For home users Windows is getting pretty shitty - it steals data all the time with numerous privacy settings you have to set to try and stop it, it tries to force you ads, it tries to force you to use its Web browser, it bundles lots of sponsored apps and when it does a big update it resets alot of your choices on privacy plus reinstalls removed bundle apps. It also throws new "features" at you which take up resources and impact privacy. Like Xbox gaming - I didn't ask for it, I don't want it, stop installing it every year and stop forcing an overlay on my own games.

It's really a chore to use windows now; it feels like a constant battle to make sure it's not intruding on your data and privacy or showing you ads. I now use windows as the exception when there is a specific game that doesn't work in Linux. The rest of the time I boot into Linux, or use a separate work provided Windows device for home working.

I know it's probably a case of "who asked" but I guess I just mean I get that windows can be decent for work related stuff (or necessary) but when it comes to personal stuff it's a bit of a nightmare. And I guess it also comes down to whether the privacy invasion and advertising bothers users. Bothers me a lot, but some people don't seem to care how the customer has become the product.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago

Most people don't care because most of your problems are all privacy related. And that's what Linux people don't seem to get. They rant and rave about how much better Linux is.... for privacy. But the average Joe doesn't know or care that data is being collected and for the most part it doesn't affect them. It's just some Boogeyman being thrown at them. What they care about is ease of use and convience. They don't dig into those details because, for the most part, they're not even aware.

When Linux people say it's a "better experience", they largely mean detailed customization and more privacy.

When Windows people say it's a "better experience", they mostly mean that it's the same relatively easy to use experience on every device and it Just Works®.

They're both right. But each side argues their side of the conversation not seeing that the other side has a perfectly justified use case for theirs. It's like arguing that everyone should drive a van and not understanding why someone might not want one.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Get AutoCAD on Linux and I'm there buddy. Some of us need to work.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

True, the biggest sore points of Linux is Windows software support. This probably won't work for you because you seem to use AutoCAD for work, but for me I was able to just find alternatives to programs that were not available anymore when I switched to Linux.

[–] TheFonz@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For sure. I would love to ditch Autocad, but that would require me convincing my entire industry. I hate AutoCAD.

[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've been using Linux since Ubuntu was in the single digits. Looks like windows entering the double digits is finally the end. I thought win10 would be able to stay relatively unmolested, but nope, copilot button and bullshit right there in the bar. Why can't you just leave us the fuck alone. Your driving everyone away who doesn't have a professional obligation to use your OS. I'll still have to keep a old win10 boot drive that never connects to a network so I can play games and use CAD that Linux can't. As a KDE fanboi they've added pretty much everything I've always wished for and plasma 6 is launching.

Now is my time. Fuck you Microsoft. I won't miss you.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

10+ years with Linux as my daily driver (yeah I'm old). When my os updates, it's almost always with some feature that's pretty neat.

Nowadays the steamdeck or some combo of Linux with steam can play my games, do my work, and I actively make other people's lives better when I contribute.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wow, Microsoft are always so innovative! I never thought that the Win11 taskbar could get any shittier, but somehow they managed it. It's great to see those thousands of engineers being put to good use.

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Orionza@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. My win11 install is coming up. Looks like I may need this. Bookmarked

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

There are more ways to make Windows suck less, even open source ones: https://feddit.de/comment/7447632 Of course, pick whatever is best for you, but FOSS is ultimately safer (and free!).

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not open source. Use:

  • Open Shell
    • brings a normal Start Menu back as well as an optional taskbar in Explorer
  • Explorer Patcher
    • revives Explorer's "commented-out code", bringing back functionality from previous Windows versions: optionally translucent taskbar without blur, seconds display in calendar popup, optionally the weather widget and many many more
  • CTT winutil
    • installs/updates various free programs for you with one click, one-stop-shop for all kinds of recommended debloat/freedom settings
  • MSEdge Redirect
    • self-explanatory: all Bing queries from within the OS apps go to your preferred search engine & default browser instead
[–] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Purchase licence key

No, thanks.

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There are free OS alternatives out there (which I suspect you already use but just want to poop on other's parade).

I assume that if someone's already using Windows, a paid OS, they are willing to pay $2 to make it usable.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

I prefer if persistent, high-permission code running on my machine is FOSS, and support the devs if I see it's useful

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Please stop. This is getting me depressed and I don't even use Windows.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You can just turn that off. You know that, right?

EDIT: also, the icon doesn't show up in the position the OP's screenshot shows it, at least not in my experience. It showed up right next to the start button for me, but you CAN move it around the taskbar if you want.

[–] Contend6248@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

See you next update 🎉

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Windows has overtaken Linux in the "requires customization" department

[–] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Honestly, stock KDE is pretty nice, i barely change a thing and feel right at home.

[–] MarcRnt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've already switched to Linux partially. My PC now dual boots to Manjaro and Windows. I won't switch completely, but it's great to have such an awesome alternative right there one click of a button away. And the funny thing is that I'm not even the only one amongst my friends to do that. We are now three already and we even game on Linux too.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I set up Linux dual-boot as well, around half a year ago now. But I made (Mint) Linux the default boot option; so that when I turn on my computer, I get 3 seconds to interrupt it and choose Windows - otherwise it just starts Linux. And just like that, I've never used Windows again. There just hasn't been any need or desire.

If someone is setting up dual-boot with the hope of maybe switching to Linux, I'd say it's import to make the Linux boot option the default. Otherwise they'll still just be booting Windows most of the time out of habit, and never make the switch.

[–] MarcRnt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

If all I did was just office tasks and browsing the web, I'd completely switch to Linux as well. But as a gamer, things start to become complicated very soon. Some games run perfectly fine, some don't run at all. It's hit or miss. That's why I keep Windows around and boot it almost daily. But the situation of gaming on linux is improving currently, so I'm hoping for a bright future...

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have Linux dual booted on my gaming PC and it struggles with a lot of games on my 3080 TI with intel i10. Just doesn’t work reliably so I still have to use windows sometimes. It sucks.

[–] MarcRnt@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah gaming on Linux can be frustrating at times. Some games work perfectly out of the box, some don't even start or lag a lot. Especially on Nvidia graphics things get complicated. I'm an AMD user and everything is mostly working fine, but a friend of mine uses Nvidia and he struggles more with driver issues and missing Wayland support.

[–] Geek_King@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I noticed this bullshit a few days ago on my Win 11 desktop! I found if you go check the settings of the start bar, you can hide the copilot icon in the lower right, and then there's a check box to enable the lower right hand corner to work as show desktop again. The functionality can be restore to exactly as it was, but what the hell were they thinking.

Enshitification, plain and simple.

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't wanna defend Microsoft here cause yk fuck them but I'ma guess most people didn't even know the show desktop was there tbh or if they did use it but then again I've never understood why it was there I never use it

[–] Vejezdigna@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Hide desktop is useful if you have many non-minimized windows and you don't want to minimize each one. I can vouch for that button 😎.

[–] TwoCubed@feddit.de 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I hink its super useful too. But i usually use win+d.

[–] emmie@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

macOS here yay, the ui is sooo good

Windows is seriously worst mix out of the three options. The only thing it has is legacy programs support and it’s not even a pro just a feature someone may need

And VR gaming yeah unfortunately I am not sure anything will replace my gaming 4090 7800x3d rig soon. Unless I will just get bored with it.

Worst thing is windows isn’t even better for gaming. It’s just better because it’s what devs release for because everyone uses it. It would be so much better on Mac or Linux, you know actual modern systems instead of the convoluted windows frankenstein one has to go back to to run the latest drivers.

I am almost ready to sell the rig and finally say goodbye if not for VR

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Listen, the only reason I hate the Mac OS interface is the only reason you think it's sooo good -- we're both used to what we use most frequently. The mac OS interface is, to me, borderline unusable. The stunning amount of wasted space when a window isn't maximized and that godawful minimizing/maximizing start bar bullshit are impossible.

Mac is just as bad as windows, but trades being even more restricted and uncustomizable for increased privacy and hardware optimization.