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Keeping it at bay? The fuck are you smoking
As an outsider, I'd like to remind you 'muricans that you don't have a democracy, much less a democratic party. You have two big groups that are kept afloat by big money in need of "favors"
Democrats do actively pass progressive reform, so who is really being duped? You who lets emotions and propaganda control your political outlook, or people who actually attempt to fight back by electing Democrats?
The biggest threat the progressive polices is the lefts inability to recognize their being played, not by the Democratic Party but by the media who baits them into blaming the party for things it cannot control.
The easiest mark is the one who thinks themselves too smart to be a mark.
You guys can't be serious. When the Democratic Party throws up their hands and says "it's out of our control" instead of actually fighting for progressive reform, you actually believe them? After everything we've seen? What will it actually take for you to realize the Democrats aren't fighting for us?
We're never going to badger the current DNC corporate shills into working for the people... They'll need to be replaced before we can hope to stop the ratchet effect and start making real change
I’m sold. Let’s do it.
First step is making a place everyone can access and start collecting information... Any idea how to do that? I'm afraid I'm mostly tech illiterate
2nd step: we need to map out who actually gets to vote for DNC leadership/membership
It's more important to just build community. It will be a slow waking up for everyone to realize elections are no longer free and fair. A strong community will form a net to catch all these people when they finally do come around.
We built a strong community for/with Bernie... While we had a mission and leadership we got things done too, but as soon as the campaign ended and there was no more guidance, the community basically disintegrated... Community needs a plan and a mission...a mutual goal to work towards as a team... Plan the strategy and pass out roles and people will get on board and join the "community"
The DNC needs the far right. Without it, their candidates would have to run on actual positions, rather than just "Vote for us because we're not Republicans."
The DNC hires the same consultants for running campaigns that the RNC use so naturally they will all veer right. The DNC has stopped trying to represent the people and wants to get their turn at the money funnel.
Go listen to the Harris campaign featured on pod save america. These losers think they made the right moves, every time, and have no vision for the future that does not acquest to the right wing agenda.
Dems have been right of center for my entire life. It's only because we have such far-right propaganda about socialism and such in schools that this seems normal.
Edit: when I made some comment / argument on a position in debate class when I was 15yo, the teacher whispered "socialist" to the class. I didn't even know what that meant. Whatever I said, it was sure to be about helping people and making the world more fair to end up with that comment.
"In my view, we need a strong Republican Party. We need a Republican Party that’s united." - Joe Biden
Joe Biden, Primary Donald Trump As A Republican - SOME MORE NEWS (2019)
Well, yeah...
The only chance an unpopular neoliberal has of being president, is the threat that they're the only other option to Republicans.
Otherwise they'd never get any votes.
So neoliberals want Republicans to be the biggest threat possible.
The context for that quote was a 2011 interview. The Obama administration was having trouble working with the Republicans because the Tea Party movement had gotten a lot of firebrands elected where working together with Democrats to effectively govern was unthinkable. The Republican House leadership since then has been weak, which has led to multiple government shutdowns.
Just to be clear, it isn't up to DNC committes or legislators to defeat MAGA. That's our job. We have to go out and convince people to vote for the Democrats. Independents sometimes, too. We need to remove Maga from congress by defeating them in elections, us the citizens have to do that shit.
Stop blaming the solution for the problem we're making, WE need to DO THIS. This is OUR JOB.
What?!
The entire point of the democratic party is to get it's members elected.
And theyre a private party with no obligations to anyone else.
It's the parties job to convince voters to vote. It's not the voters job to always pick the lesser of two evils, especially when both parties use every opportunity to become more "evil" by siding with the wealthy more than regular citizens.
WE need to DO THIS. This is OUR JOB.
We're not the ones who just wasted $1,500,000,000 and paid ourselves millions.
If it's our job why the fuck are we paying people fighting against us to do it poorly?
Keeping at bay? The Republicans have the DNC by the throat right now.
We absolutely need to take advantage of the in-fighting, the DNC won't do it, but... we can get a Rich Vs. Poor narrative going...
Haha, no we can't. People enjoy the culture war way, way too much. Reddit and Lemmy are living proof. I see far more left vs right content than rich vs poor on here.
What is your definition of left-vs-right when rich-vs-poor is an explicitly left-wing framing? Are you so caught up in the culture wars to think left-vs-right is exclusively cultural?
Yeah the American flavor of left actually enables facism. Sadly it’s the same thing you see in places like Germany, UK, Canada, and France. France is relatively better.
Similar to how Netanyahu's faction in Israel kept funding Hamas to justify their objectives on control of the state.
"What would the donors think!?"
They go to the same parties organised by the same billionaires and their kids go to the same schools and marry each other.
"Ummmmm you're kidding right? Our owners would never allow that. I was thinking more like swoop in and openly become the new right! Nows our chance to take the economic left mask off and embrace our neoliberalism!"
I feel like the LotR "Cast it into the fire!" meme would also work, where the ring is "Rich People Money"
