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[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jobs was an idiot. Chose homeopathic crap instead of medicine. I don't give him credit for anything if he's that dumb.

He's free to do that, sure, but anyone doing so is safe to be labeled "moron" by everyone else.

Unless I've heard a messed up version of events he will stay in the "idiots that were not beneficial to humans in any way" trash can.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He had one of the few treatable forms of pancreatic cancer and skipped the only known treatment in favour of homeopathic.

If he had "normal" pancreatic cancer I'd maybe give him some slack. It's just not treatable. But what he had was probably survivable had he treated it immediately.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/steve-jobs-treatment-biographer-jobs-delayed-surgery-pancreatic/story?id=14781250

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well if the treatment is specifically miserable, that could be a factor.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The treatment was surgery. Not even weeks/months of chemo.

His treatment of "eat exclusively one type of fruit a week" IIRC almost hospitalized Kushner when he replicated it while doing the biopic.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Well I tried to give the benefit of doubt even after hating Apple in general. I'm out of ideas of ways he wasn't a complete idiot that was doing stupid things for stupid reasons. And I've always been happy he's dead since I heard he was.

I actively celebrate deaths of stops and evil people alike. I've never seen the point of curbing it under terms like "I don't wish him dead, but I won't be sad to see his obituary". No I am actually am happy he's dead and just giddy to see his obit.

Kinda like I'm sure everyone was glad to see Hitler dead. I just get happy about evil AND stupid people's deaths.

[–] Gjolin@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

My work got me an Macbook M3. After two weeks of dicking around with it, I went back to my Thinkpad. I don't get it at all. I thought at least the hardware would be great, but I hate the hardware too. Too heavy, aluminum case feels fucking cold to the touch, screen still isn't bright enough to work outside, keyboard has that fucked up layout. And although the M-series sets a nice trend, it currently cannot run GNU/Linux without lots of reverse engineering, so fuck that. My 2014 gen Thinkpad is a far better experience. I'm now even more convinced than ever that Apple is just a marketing cult.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I have the same gripe with the aluminum chassis on laptops. I got a cheap Thinkpad Chromebook for personal use and even though the material on the X1 Carbons is a fingerprint magnet, at least it isn't chilly every time you rest your hands on it.

I wish I had that choice, but my options right now are upgrade to an M3 now or wait until our stock runs out and get an M4. For now, I've decided to wait.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

Apple absolutely does NOT slow old phones when they send out new updates. Anymore.

/s

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[–] odium@programming.dev 337 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 168 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Seriously though. Fuck that guy.

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[–] archonet@lemy.lol 48 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Why, exactly? Genuinely asking. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no Apple fan, and he was absolutely an insufferable douchebag to nearly everyone he knew; and was a verifiable self-righteous fuckwit who Darwin'd himself out of existence by choosing woo-woo bullshit over medicine for a very treatable cancer.

Evil, though, I think might be a stretch -- Elon, Thiel, Vance, Trump, Murdoch, the Sackler family, the Koch brothers, etc. all excellent contenders for being truly evil -- but afaik Jobs was just a dickhead with an ego the size of a blimp, and I think we ought not dilute that term with just your run-of-the-mill dickheads. Unless you know something I don't about him.

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 62 points 3 days ago

To start with, Jobs lied and cheated Wozniak out of money. And this was Jobs friend, not some random.

If he is willing to do this to his friends, you know he did it to others.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 73 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Parts missing? I don't believe this at all. A phone is basically a single board, screen, battery, lenses, audio bits. Everything is so jammed in that there's no room to think parts are missing. No tech would make this mistake and Apple doesn't benefit from generating a hostile customer experience. This is made up.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I used to work for Apple. I don't believe the missing parts story because as you said, how would that even happen. But, if any parts have been replaced, especially the home buttons / finger print reader, they will refuse to fix, and I never understand why. So that may be what happened.

Also Jobs was 100% behind this stuff. It's so annoying when people treat him like he was some tech god. He was a twat.

[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The refusal is likely tied to liability, in that they see any aftermarket parts or OoW repairs as a potential failure point and fear the customer may blame them for it. It wouldn't even matter if the quality of work or parts is as good or better. There's also another factor of trying to oversimplify any repairs/service to allow them to eventually hire unqualified/uneducated 'techs' for things who don't have a clue what's going on.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

It's only relatively recently that Apple have allowed non-apple staff to repair iPhones so by definition everyone is unskilled because there's no way to be skilled unless you work for Apple.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 18 points 2 days ago

This is made up.

It's a green text lol.

[–] exploitedamerican@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

The only way i would believe it is if they meant a screw or two or one of the flat metal plates that is used to secure other components. Ive repaired i pho es and they are a pain tk deal with and sometimes you forget exactly which screw goes where when they are mostly so small they all look the same. I misplaced a small plastic component thst acts as a sound amplifying cone to direct your voice soundwaves to the microphone use for phone calls and it made it so people couldnt hear me unless i used the speaker phone. But thats no good reason not to repair. They should have drawers filled with those screws and other internal irrelevant components

[–] DrPop@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Sorry details may be fake, but I do believe an apple employee would pull some shot because policy dictates they sell new equipment over fixing old equipment.

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[–] rehydrate5503@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Are you suggesting someone would lie? On the internet?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting someone would lie? At the Genius Bar?

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[–] Don_alForno 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Of course the tech didn't believe that. However, Apple does benefit from tech illiterate customers buying a new iPhone instead.

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 days ago (36 children)

what did Steve Jobs even do except for management and marketing, and why does he then get the praise for the hardware/software???

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 183 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Their "repair" program is nothing but a scam to nudge you into buying a new Apple product to replace the broken one with overinflated repair prices and bullshit excuses like that.

Also it works exactly as Steve Jobs intended.

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[–] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 163 points 3 days ago

"Some of the parts were missing"

You motherfuckers put the damn thing together in the first place!

[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 128 points 3 days ago (11 children)

This is almost exactly what happened to me except they told me my phone had mold growing inside it from the shattered screen I wanted replaced.

The “mold” was pocket lint from waiting a month to get it fixed.

Bitch actually said right to my face that my phone no longer works so let’s get you a new one. I powered on the phone right there and he started backpedaling and grifting ‘oh but it won’t be long tho’. So I went home and still use it with the shattered screen because fuck them.

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[–] MightyCuriosity@sh.itjust.works 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Real story: A friend of mine used his iPhone on his motorcycle and it messed up the OIS. He went to Apple, said they wouldn't fix it. He went to a third party and they told him they basically have to beg Apple to fix it and get parts so he'd have to leave his phone for a week to MAYBE get it fixed by the grace of the big fruit. He bought a new iPhone. I still don't understand why.

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[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 85 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At least where I live, if the bootleg repair place isn't slightly moldy, it's a scam. Rundown, old white tiles on the wall, chipped mirror somewhere, a frail curtain to separate the back area from the front counter, and, in summer, a mandatory swiveling standing fan. That's where your phone will get a second lease on its live!

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Fake and gay. They will never say your device has parts missing since they know most customers aren't that stupid. They most of the time say you have water damage or it's too old for repair.

The Apple Genius Bar sucks ass. But let's not pretend like any of the other big tech companies do any better. At least Apple has a physical store where they can fuck you over in person. Try getting Samsung shit repaired. In most countries they let a 3rd party company do the handling and repairs and you can't visit that company. You have to send it in and if they deem your device unrepairable or "not" broken they send it back and you have to pay for shipping both ways even if the device falls under warranty and sometimes they send it back more broken then when it left your hands. While communication happens solely trough email.

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[–] not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 67 points 3 days ago

The missing part was a brand new iPhone or two.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Apple a bad company? Really? I neeeeever eeeeever heard anything bad about aaaaaple.

No shit Sherlock, it'd obvious AF. It's one of the wealthiest companies in the world. They didn't get all that money with honesty. Child labor, slave labor, ripping off consumers, creating a whole new level of corporate greed. Apple is as evil as you can get. Just like Nvidia, Shell, Google, Nestlé, etc.

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