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[–] 30p87 70 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (13 children)

So 10€ for a Terrabyte? How? You can't compare mass-discounted stuff, like cloud, which additionally uses your data for tracking etc., to generate more money, with the consumer focused, single-item storage common a few years ago.

[–] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah apparently I just got ripped tf off with the ssd I just bought.

Storage IS cheap these days, but 1c/GB is not true.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

pretty close, though. $99.99 for new 8tb seagate hdd is the lowest/gb i've seen in the last couple years from a major retailer.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's not true yet but it's not another five years away either.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I just checked and 18tb can be had for $170, so we're there already.

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[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://a.co/d/eLUC1DL

.016 cents per gb. It's pretty close, but i can't really find anything lower and reliable.

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[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Refurbished 16TB+ HDDs are around that price range.

If you want a new one its sadly twice as expensive.

[–] 30p87 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Often has exorbitant shipping + tax to germany, unfortunately, and once you want recertified ones, so more than a month or so of warranty, it's more expensive.

Yup, I've had to really search for good offers in the past over here but there's still a couple of decent one's around.

For example:

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B0CF5XVHMS/

16 TB @ 200€ with [probably] cheap shipping + you can add an extended warranty of up to 4 years for an additional 6€. No clue whether the extended warranty covers hard drive failure, though it seems like it should.

[–] philluminati@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago

I agree that cloud storage is a rental scheme and not comparable, but an old sata disk here is 240Gb for £24 which is equivalent to 10c per Gig. If you go back to abandoned formats like ide hard disks you may be able to get 0.01 per Gb.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/240gb-wd-green-sata-m2-ssd-m2-2280-sata-iii-6gb-s-slc-nand-read-545mb-s-wd-ssd-dashboard

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This chart is total bullshit on past pricing. Lots of it is wrong. It's especially laughable to think that normal pc owners in 1999 were paying nearly $10,000 for a 20 GB hard drive. Let alone the cost 5 years before that. Lol

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To corroborate what you're saying, here's a Compusa ad from 1999. The desktops listed are much cheaper than the $450/GB price and come with, a whole computer around that hard drive.

Plus on page 12, there's an 18GB drive for $300, or $16.67/GB.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

lol nobody had 20gb hard drives as “normal PC owners” in 1999. How old are you?

[–] quink@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

People very much had 20GB drives that year. Sure, 8GB, 12GB, 13.6GB we’re more common capacities but any mid to high-end system that didn’t have (near enough) 20GB was bad value and drives bigger than that were available.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure they existed but only on high-end PCs. 20GB drives didn't become the norm for another two years. I remember; I was there.

[–] quink@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I replied to a post saying that nobody had a 20GB system. Sure it was more of a mid to high-end thing, but very much far from nobody.

And I was there too, the low end cheapo PC I got that year had 12GB.

https://vintageapple.org/pcworld/pdf/PC_World_9912_December_1999.pdf

And by 2001 that 12GB got an 80GB companion. Sure, 20GB was some low-end baseline maybe, but I had 12+80 by that year and it was in no way unusual.

Edit: and just checked the Wayback Machine for the local computer shop. The cheapest Celerons had 40GB. In 2001.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago

I said no “normal pc owners”. Normal pc owners don’t have high end systems. I didn’t say “nobody”.

2 years in the late 90s early 2000s was a millennia. You can’t compare 99 to 01 in any manner.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

Old enough that the first PC I built had bunches of dip switches you had to flip around so it would know what to do, depending on what you were putting in it. You ever overclock a cpu by 3Mhz before?

[–] mkhopper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I would have killed for 20Gb of space in 1999 on my personal PC. People ran with nowhere near that much space back then.

I was also the administrator of an HP mainframe at that time, and we ran the whole business on about 5Gb, and paid big $$$ for it.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

We had one of these 12gb quantum bigfoots(5.25” drive) in ~1998 or so. Here’s a publication saying it was expected to cost $490 at launch. That’s a far cry from ~$450 per gigabyte.

Edit to add inflation graphic. Doesn’t add up even after accounting for inflation.

[–] aard@kyu.de 5 points 2 weeks ago

In '99 my 8GB disk died, and shortage of stock gave me a 12GB disk as warranty replacement.

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[–] recklessengagement@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe if you're getting refurbished drives, sure. But new drives are still more frequently around 0.02-0.05 per GB.

[–] cymbal_king@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Someone should let Apple know

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

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“Tim Cook hears you, Tim Cook don’t care.”

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's nice when thing actually go down in price. We need to bring back those days.

[–] gitamar 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] uis@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

~800 roubles per terabyte?! It's cheaper than some used drives! Thanks for resource.

EDIT: MDD seems to be just repackager of used drives.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I love just straight up lying. I wish it was 1¢ per GB. Maybe the most dirt cheap Chinese off-brand that only has 1/2 of its listed capacity usable because it is a refurb labelled as new. 100€ for a 10TB is insane.

Even going higher capacity to get a lower price per GB, 10TB drives are around 300€. That is 0.03€ per GB. 20TB drives are around 525€. (These are just consumer drives too, enterprise is significantly more expensive for the MTBF ratings) Still 0.026€ per GB. Once you get into ultra high capacity, it starts going up again because of tech limitations.

[–] shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago

Here you can get 12TB, new, from a trusted German seller, for 129€, which is 1.075 cents per GB.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago

It's lying in the other direction as well. We had a 2GB HDD on our computer in the late 90s that I am very sure did not cost thousands of dollars.

[–] Supernova1051@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago

I bought a 20TB external hard drive a year ago for 0.015 cents per GB. This was after taxes, so it was technically cheaper.

$301.69/20,000 = 0.0150

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

20y ago $5? No. But also, I’m an apple guy. They fuck you on storage. But I also buy third-party devices so still, no.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

TBF, everyone fucks you on built-in storage, especially soldered SSDs that can't be upgraded, and I'm very much not an Apple guy.

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah his numbers are definitely off for that era...

Diablo 2 was released 25 years ago and it required 1GB storage... he is saying that every D2 player had a $500+ HDD lmao

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[–] Gurei@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

The trouble was less dollar to space in the past as it was dollar to certain benchmarks of space.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

So soon it will free! Can't wait

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Someone do one for the average physical size taken up by 1 GB.

When I was a kid we had a 500 MB drive that was the size of a brick and now we have microsd cards that are 1TB. Pretty wild.

The spec exists for a 128TB SDUC card.
There probably doesn't exists one yet, or maybe only in a lab somewhere and probably costs more than my car.
Still, today's storage density is kinda nuts.
Within my lifetime, we've went from 1.5MB being high-density portable storage, now you can have a 2TB thumb drive in your pocket.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm guessing it is based upon this: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/historical-cost-of-computer-memory-and-storage

45 years ago the cost was 567 382,81 for a GB. Now it is 0.01 for a GB.

Although the graph is in TB.

Most likely not based on consumer hardware though.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This crazy storage inflation rate is going to kill us all. We need to halt this inflation somehow. Feds?

Shrinkflation 7zip

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