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[–] dataprolet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

85 % probably have outdated firmware.

[–] lemmytellyousomething@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why? I don't understand. Doesn't it have any update mechanism for that?

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They mean that the device manufacturer and or hardware vendors are no longer putting out updates for the proprietary blobs.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

I dont know if it even has to be proprietary. Vendors need to sign the firmware too.

Yeah, really bad.

[–] Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I think I have like half of those devices in a desk drawer.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why? I have had the same phone for the last 5 years.

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Because people (like myself) do that with their old phone to have a backup that’s not horrifically outdated but that isn’t actually needed day to day

[–] Disinfect056@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] denast@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes because every smartphone is a Pixel, apparently

[–] Disinfect056@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Every smart person will have one with GrapheneOS installed

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, can you be smart somewhere else?

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

These comments where a bit selfish but GrapheneOS really is worlds ahead of LineageOS.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That might very well be, but their target audience is tiny, since they refuse to support anything but Pixel phones

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which sucks, because their features would also make other devices more secure. But at the same time they would

  • need substantially more resources (I think supporting Google phones is really easy, as they get full security patches for everything)
  • need to lower their security level a ton

No device needs even their basic requirements which are not even that high.

And even then the said points would be a problem

[–] petrescatraian@libranet.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

@Pantherina they could simply support phones with stock Android and there will probably be less work to do than supporting the broad range of devices that Lineage has.

@MaggiWuerze

[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I would love to use lineage or /e/ again on my phone, but Google's Foto app is Soo good compared to all of the foss apps out there. Especially if you like modes like super-macro I did not find anything near that. This is a shame bc/ I've used an degoogled device for over an decade now.

Does anyone have an idea how I could come back on the good side without loosing the functionality of that app?

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm not aware what I'm missing out on. On GrapheneOS on a Pixel phone, you can install the camera app made by Google. com.google.android.GoogleCamera. Has some fancy features, but maybe not the ones you are referring to?

[–] sebsch@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least I did not find anything in the Playstore.

Graphene has the secure camera there but this is (I think) a fork of opencamera with sane configuration

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This is the installed camera app as seen in the play store for me.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera

It shows up with the name "Pixel Camera"

[–] JulesTheModest@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I use it on my old Pixel 3a to play livestream bird feeders for one of my cats.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

And did your Pentester find any vulnerabilities yet? XD

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[–] GOTFrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I always wanted to try it, but my bank wont let me login if I'm not on on the devices OG OS, I used to run Custom ROM until that started to happen.

[–] mudeth@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There are workarounds:

Install magisk, add the app to the zygisk denylist before first run.

Install ~~universal safetynet fix and magisk hide props config (modules for magisk).~~

For some apps, you may have to install them in island so that they can't detect the magisk app.

[–] moitoi@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago

You need play integrity fix instead of safetynet and just activating zygisk should be fine on latest magisk.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a really nicely built OS, well documented, and the install process is streamlined as much as possible (with detailed instructions).

I really hope we can get enough attention and support to this project (as well as others like it) for it to get mainstream.

[–] Amir@lemmy.ml 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

for it to get mainstream

It will never get more mainstream than this.

Lineage has been the go-to ROM that beat every other ROM in active users by one or more orders of magnitude since the beginning of Android. Everyone that cares a little bit about custom ROMs knows what Lineage is, and if they don't they will recognize its previous name CyanogenMod.

Average users are never going to care about custom ROMs because it's not worth the effort for them, so why would you care about making LOS more mainstream?

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

More people using a thing (in this case I mean FOSS more than LOS specifically) influences the market, companies start to notice and may even be forced to adapt. Large private monopolistic ecosystem are really bad for everything.

It would make things easier for smaller brands to enter market as well - like what Raspberry/Banana Pi but for phones.

Also the official list of supported devices (wiki.lineageos.org/devices) has a super easy install process. Mainstream would mean more of these (eg the latest flagship Samsung supported is S10/Note10). And expanding this list would make a huge difference in addition - not everyone that knows about custom ROMs is tech savvy (or just wants a stable OS with OTA).

[–] Mkengine@feddit.de 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And this is also only the official list, there are unofficial ports for much newer Samsung devices like the Samsung S20 FE