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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is exactly the same argument we had with the loss of anonymity brought about by social media participation, primarily of Facebook. Now more and more of the digital space connects with the real world and other people end up giving out info about you. Then we had cameras and microphone put in every smart device and people bought those eagerly just so they could play with the equivalent of the latest dog face filter, putting them everywhere so you get spied on all over the place.

The average person is walking civilization into a nightmare and individuals who notice can do nothing about it. People will not let responsibility ruin their recess. They're children handing control of everything in their lives over to psychopaths who are re-enslaving all of us. Lemmings off a fucking cliff bought off with a series of damned toys.

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can control if I use Linux or not. I can't control my government being ~~bribed~~ lobbied by big tech that shits on consumer rights. I know what can reasonably change. Also the therapist and doctor offices are bad examples, because they have strong legal defenses through HIPAA.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They do have HIPAA. That doesn't mean their IT departments configured Windows correctly. Especially if it's a government facility that's required by law to accept the lowest bid from a third-party IT provider.

I work in municipal government, and our third-party IT is absolutely terrible. They can't manage to set up an email address or image a computer without inventing 19 new ways to fuck it up. They've called me for help with my coworkers' computers. If I worked in tech, that wouldn't be so bad, but I work in the planning department.

[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

Technical issues are irrelevant. If Microsoft is caught acting on this data, then they are in a lot of legal trouble. As far as I know, HIPAA doesn't have exceptions for unintentional data leakage from inept admins.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude, I can't even demand my health care insurance cover anesthesia for a procedure. Demanding anything from the government or a corporation is absolutely pointless at the moment.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm still pissed the email I had managed to keep junk free for years was leaked because my insurance company had a breach.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 8 points 1 day ago

Simplelogin/anonaddy

That having been said, keeping an email "private" is roughly as silly as people who think phone numbers are private, as if the white pages never existed.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does your company/school provide employee/student Microsoft 365 licences? Ask your Windows-using colleague to check that "Optional Connected Experiences" are enabled and tell the IT team that they are likely allowing genAI training on internal documents (Microsoft seems to have reserved the right to do that and never denied the allegations). Yes, they can disable this organization-wide and will likely contact Microsoft over this, and if enough of us do this they'll know they crossed a line.

If your company's IT team does not respond, you'll have another argument getting your peers over to LibreOffice.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We're working hard to get rid of Microsoft as last we checked, we can't disable copiloi using our data used on SharePoint without also removing all required user functionality like searching documents from SharePoint. We searched everywhere and literally couldn't find a way to remove that.

I know that government is storing citizens data there....

WTF, why have companies ever decided to use Microsoft ?

Dump Microsoft, now.

[–] Zeon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because the IT Manager is a clueless imbecile who only wants things his way and will not take in any other alternatives whatsoever. Doesn't matter if it's better for the company, they insist on having everything their way.

[–] nature_man@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I remember bringing up possibly switching to linux to my IT manager at my previous job, I was told, and I quote:

I would love to, windows sends a lot of junk network traffic and that sometimes makes it hard to investigate shit, but I was told by corporate that people already know windows and we already paid for the licenses, so no.

That's basically been my experience as well whenever I recommend linux over Windows to corpos, they can't understand that there are valid reasons to switch, they are corporate and they know better than you, even when they know nothing about your field!

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[–] drathvedro@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But does your medical clinic do? Does your therapist do? Does your family member...

Surprisingly, yes. Though they're not happy with it, for various reasons. But it was refreshing to rant to my therapist about snap, apt and systemd and have them truly understand me.

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

got 'Hogwarts Legacy' for $17 on a sale ($60 normally) and after starting it up I got put on a shader caching screen for literally 10 minutes It instantly put me on a screen that forced me to go to some 3rd party website to enter my email and IRL location for them to delete my data if they had it, BUT IT DIDN'T EVEN WORK. It showed an error message!!

Then it gave me literally 15 customizeable items I don't care about then after literally 20 minutes of playtime IT CRASHED.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 day ago

Karma, I'd say

[–] BendingHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate to say this, but PRIVACY IS DEAD... Atleast online... Unless, you are an IT expert and been using VPNs since 2001.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

it died a long time ago

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

On a side note, I don't discuss anything with gmail users that I don't want indexed and stored in Google's dossier of me.

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 59 points 2 days ago (4 children)

i use linux and don’t have family or friends or get any kind of medical care ☺️ checkmate

[–] Zink@programming.dev 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Using Linux in America be like

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The failures of the United States healthcare system are compatible with the Unix philosophy due to its emphasis on doing one thing poorly and leaving the rest for the user to figure out. Like Unix tools, each component—insurance, billing, and treatment—functions independently, refusing to communicate effectively while relying on the user to “pipe” themselves between endless calls, paperwork, and escalating bills. Debugging your health, much like debugging code, requires advanced knowledge, infinite patience, and a willingness to accept that nothing will ever be fully resolved.

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[–] einlander@lemmy.world 162 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Don't forget with the Recall feature, you may be on Linux and are using a secure communication application, but if who you are talking to is on windows your conversation can be scraped.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 87 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Same thing with email. It's all well and good if you're using ProtonMail or Tuta or Posteo, but you're still cooked if the other side is using Gmail.

Old problems, new modi operandi.

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[–] jonne@infosec.pub 40 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's not like companies that use Linux don't get breached either. Your personal data is in thousands of databases that have varying levels of security. Personal choices don't affect any of that, regulations like GDPR are what's needed.

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[–] beanlink_@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Until there is serious consequences to data breaches and criminal charges it doesn't matter. It's been a free for all for a long time the best we can do is simply keep using products or services that respect your privacy and discourage or not use services.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, our response to the Equifax breach was the end of data privacy. Oh, you lost literally all of the data for all of the adults in the US that you have been tracking without consent? All good, don't worry.

Really, the response should have been the FBI taking all of their equipment, figuring out exactly what was stolen, notifying all the victims, then formatting and shredding all the equipment and sending Equifax a bill, on top of a huge fine.

[–] savx@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (2 children)

privacy is scary stuff if you think. it's like, i care so i dont share my phone number with facebook, but someone out there may have my number/address/name on their contact list and chances are big that they have no problem sharing with zuck. so i'll still end up on zuck's database.

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[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What drives me nuts about this subject is rarely spoken about.

No single company can properly compensate all of their users for the damages caused by mishandling their personal data.

In fact the damages may even be too great for the government to properly compensate said users.

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago (8 children)

But does your medical clinic do?

No, they don't, and it pisses me off. Every time I see it, I think, Well, there goes my medical privacy.

But where else can I go? There's only one health company in town, and they bought all the doctor's offices.

Who can I complain to? The doctors and nurses are visibly frustrated with Windows every time I see them use it. If they can't change it, how could I?

That ship has sailed anyway. I've had no less than 5 breach notifications show up in the mail from things related to my health care in the last 2 years, and it's not like I'm constantly at the doctor. The whole system is a disaster.

[–] fishpen0@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I work for a healthcare company and when we launched we made a huge deal about only using Linux on our backend and only giving Macs to employees. It’s been almost 10 years and we’ve hired a small army of morons since then and they fired our CTO. These idiots have demanded windows so they can “do analytics” despite all our analytics being in looker and dbt and a bunch of fucking business bros in the csuite and vp level who demanded windows laptops because they just like it. They eventually canned our head of IT ans well and replaced him with a dumbass and that guy is currently trying to take MacBooks away from engineering. Then the head of “cloud engineering” just started outsourcing half our shit to consultants who keep building one off snowflake windows machines because nobody gives a shit anymore. So what used to be a clean ecosystem is now a giant botched pile of lowest effort garbage.

Stay away from this entire industry. There’s some brain rot where they only hire people with healthcare backgrounds even if the role has nothing to do with healthcare. What that turns into is people from ancient out of date orgs who have no idea what they are doing being hired over people from legitimate tech roles or any other background that is more advanced in other fields and the company will always slowly roll backwards into stupidity.

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[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Demand it from who? With what power or leverage?

Not to be defeatist, but I'm just a guy. Nobody's gonna listen to my demands. I'm surprised privacy notifications say anything other than "You don't have any" with two buttons that both say "OK". All I can do is selfhost as much as possible and decline to use tons of applications or services that underpin modern societal functions or social activities. So I do. But it sucks ass and I don't have any power to change any of it.

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago
[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure we all know that. I've been using Linux full time for about 8 years now. I'm also EXTREMELY aware that I can't change what OS an organization runs. It's a systemic problem.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a home user the OS thing is preference, some prefer Windows, some Mac, some Linux, etc.

Your post however raises a good point, and it certainly makes me form an opinion in a greater context. Thanks for making me think about this, genuinely - it's good to have opinions challenged.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No, you need to demand that government organizations use Linux or other open source systems as well, there is no other way.

You can require Microsoft to comply with rules, it won't. It doesn't care, it wants money, and more money, and that is it. It's been like that since it's inception. The same goes for all other tech companies

You know what brand doesn't careuch about money and will respect your privacy?

Open source software. Linux. Firefox (eh, mostly) with plugins, mariadb, etc...

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[–] Mojave@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (14 children)

"does your medical clinic do"

Bring back grammar nazis

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

This is common in British English.

For example, the question "Are you going into town?" might be answered by an American with, "I might," and by a Brit with "I might do". In past tense it would be "I might have" vs. "I might have done".

This is all perfectly systematic and grammatical - this person just has a different grammar than you do. Though I guess that's what Nazis do best: enforcing arbitrary standards in systems they don't understand to destroy diversity to everyone's detriment.

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[–] parpol@programming.dev 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I think people who say "I don't care, I use Linux" are really saying "You should use Linux to stop this."

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