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[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Not that it really matters as a legitimate cause to dislike trans people, but the 2023 Nashville shooting at a school was done by a trans person.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I only know of one, and she's an expert at everything related to fiber channel and tape drives. So I guess it might be that US conservatives are ideologically opposed to cheap long term offline storage.

This is America, we store things in the iCloud or the garage.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Gender and separation of humans based on those lines have been a thing for longer than humans even called themselves "humans", and transpeople threaten that. So it triggers a flight or fight reflex in people who aren't used to the concept.

I find when people know me for awhile and THEN find out I'm trans, their reaction is less "I'm scared", and more "That's neat", but if people find out I'm trans before they get to know me, they will be hostile the whole time.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

First, I'd challenge the 'most people' part. In my experience most people really, truly do not care one way or the other if someone is trans. But to be fair, this may vary between countries, societies, etc.

Edit: I wrote a bunch of other stuff here, but wasn't happy reading it back. Someone else here said religion and bad science, which is close enough to the point I was trying to make that I'll just say that.

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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

In my experience and speaking with transphobes I think it’s caused by our current culture of trying to force people to accept them.

Most people in my experience are happy not knowing or ignoring signs that someone is trans or gay. However when you start bringing it up in casual conversation or being overtly flamboyant for lack of a better term people start giving push back on it. I would compare it to the vegan stereotype. No one cares you’re vegan but when you constantly bring it up or try to make every conversation about you being vegan people get annoyed.

We as a society need to accept that racists and transphobes won’t change. You can’t force them to accept anything.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 3 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Ok, am conservative.

I'm going to give my thoughts.

So I'm fine with most things between consenting adults. The problem is when there isn't consent and in a larger group, a lack of consensus.

Kids can't consent, and despite claims to the contrary, there's been a couple of trans kids. The issue I see is the amount of push back on passing laws against trans kids. Why on earth do y'all care so much about banning something that isnt happening?

I'm not into sports, but I can see how unfair it is when a bio man fights a bio woman. Even if they're taking mtf hormones, there's still a ton of testorone. Just from a safety aspect, they shouldn't allow bio men in women's boxing or MMA or anything like that. Chess and stuff of that nature doesn't really care about the sex that much. And there's been more a couple of sports women who are against it too. There's a lack of consensus.

As an aside, we were making a ton of progress against gender roles, and now here we are reinforcing them. Can't even wear drag now without being called trans. It's annoying.

Why are you guys so obsessed with labels? Let dudes wear dresses and women wear whatever. You don't need a label for it.

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It's who their owners say to hate, so they hate them. Could be anyone and for no or any reason. They're cultists and they do, say, hate, and fear who they're told to.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 day ago

At this point I'm assuming that loads of them either want to be trans, want to have sex with a trans person, but they feel they can't do either because they were told it's evil

It's the same as the gay hating, any guy very visibly hating gays always ends up snorting cocaine from a gay escort dick.

[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Because they tell teenagers that you might accidentally kiss a man and let hormones and immaturity handle the rest.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not most. Your premise is faulty

[–] imPastaSyndrome@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] dafo@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's on OP to prove. But reasonably most people aren't transphobic considering how big of s topic, if you will, transsexualism had become lately. I don't think most conservatives are transphobic either.

Kind regards, someone who would be very liberal in the US.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 days ago

Cause they were told to.

[–] Wanderer@lemm.ee -3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I'll try actually answer the question and get hated for it I'm sure rather than circle jerking something to the top. But I think it goes like this.

Imagine you had a ball and a cube. Then everyone agrees the ball is a ball and a cube is a cube. Been like this as long as anyone remembers.

Then suddenly someone comes around and says one of those cubes is special and is actually a ball. Then everyone agrees that person is mental. Years go by and more people start saying that some cubes are balls and you feel like you are losing you mind. You know what a ball is, everyone knows what a ball is! How can anyone say a cube is a ball. People attack you for it. People say you are wrong that you are hateful, horrible but you know! Surely everyone knows this is a joke.

They started painting cubes to look like balls and everyone acts like they are balls. But you know they aren't balls.

You are happy to group them on different measures. Sure some balls and some cubes are red, some are yellow. Both balls and cubes can be spiky, sure balls are more often spiky but there is nothing wrong with a spiky cube. Each to there own. Most cubes are smooth but some balls are smooth. That's fine.

There are a million and one ways to group these shapes. But at the end of the day a cube is a cube and a ball is a ball. Anything else is madness and you're not standing for it. You can group them however you want, choose whatever is the most important, fine is doesn't matter. But don't say something that is obviously a cube is a ball and what is obviously a ball a cube. You can't change the definition of a cube to be what that shapes feels it is, that's meaningless. It defeats the purpose of the word. Sure make a new word but don't use that word.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee -4 points 1 day ago

Because the science ia highly debated and we are yet to come to a real consensus on the issue. From what ive seen most people really dont gives a fuck about being anti trans they give a fuck about trans intervention with children.

[–] PlainSimpleGarak@lemmings.world -1 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Why would you ask this question on Lemmy. You will get few, if any, legitimate answers. This platform is an echo chamber.

[–] wipeout69@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remove the bottom 75% of IQs in the bell curve, then take that group and choose the top 1/3 of the most technologically literate, then you have lemmy

It's just that extremely high intelligence and extreme knowledge about tech happen to correlate with certain views that aren't based on mythological bullshit. But yeah, I guess you could call that an echo chamber?

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