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[–] Akuchimoya@startrek.website 44 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Perhaps someone can help me understand the difference between an anthropromorphic animal mascot (which as a tale as old as time) and a furry? When does one cease to be one and becomes another?

There are animal mascots all the time in sports. Why is that not weird, but it's weird to have a sporty animal mascot for coins?

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The gradient from "cute" to "horny" is difficult to describe, but clear to see.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago

Babs Bunny is a known nexus of this controversy, having been drawn a variety of ways from more chibi to more realistic and with various degrees of adult sexual characteristics.

To be fair, there's been more public freak out over the green M&M redesigns.

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[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

There is no difference. Anthropomorphics = furry.

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For me it tends to be realism vs exaggerated qualities? I think these look like furry characters because they have realistic body proportions, structure, and expressions despite the animal faces and features vs something like Mickey Mouse or Sonic the Hedgehog. This allows someone to more easily see in them the physical features humans find attractive, even a lot of subtle ones considering these characters aren’t sexualized in their official art. It’s not perfect and obviously there are people who have cartoonish fursona’s and there’s cartoonish furry porn out there, but it’s a basic observation

[–] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have no idea but the eyes and the smile definitely give a different vibe than most mascots.

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The musculature and hands are what do it for me.

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[–] Draconic_NEO@pawb.social 134 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

What's wrong with having a furry mascot exactly? I mean the Japanese Air force had a furry mascot for one of their bases, not only is he a furry but also a femboy. His name is Omaneko (おまねこ)

Omaneko images

[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 66 points 3 days ago (1 children)

not only is he a furry but also a femboy

Are you sure it isn’t the navy?

[–] Draconic_NEO@pawb.social 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Japanese Air Self Defense Force (JASDF)

Yeah I'm sure about that.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

~~Google~~ Deepl's translation of the text in the first pic:

Cat with magical powers

Motif: “Nekozuka,” a tourist attraction in Omaezaki City

A member of the 1st Nyanya Police Force. He is currently stationed at the base because he wants to play with the radar dome.

  • He is 176 cm tall, or 40 m. He is good at sports, but not good in water.

  • He is a male.

The second pic:

Sign:

Do not touch

✔️ Line up to take a picture
❌ Delay
❌ Ambiguous items (e.g. model guns)
❌ Touch the staff

Speech bubble

Welcome to KEMOKET!
Welcome to Kemoket!

Text underneath

Self-Defense Recruitment

https://www.mod.go.jp/gsdf/jieikanbosyu/index.html

^Air^ ^Self-Defense^ ^Force^ ^Omaezaki-chi^ ^Kouyatskree^ ^-^ ^"Omaneko"^

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (68 children)

So in recent weeks I've learned that furries are a lot more shunned than I thought, and it's one of those things like Bronies where it's not the subject of their obsession but the enthusiasm they have for the subject of their fandom.

I grew up with Disney and Warner Brothers classics, read the Albedo comic anthology and a few others, but don't see myself as a furry enthusiast (contrast my enthusiasm for late 20th century are we the real monsters? science fiction). Furry porn and furry-themed sex fantasies aren't particularly my scene, but this is true for the majority of furries as well.

But our society has gotten weird about furries and anthros, which I guess became evident when the US right-wing started spreading the litter-boxes in schools canard. Curiously, in the porn media community, animal genital shapes are a controversy, and mainstream media platforms that sell furry porn will not allow for anthros with canine or equine genitals. I think VISA specifically will not allow transactions for such works, which is stunning interventionism both in its overreach and specificity.

And then some social media sites have special rules for furry content, that even SFW furry content can only appear inside furry-inclusive perimeters... unless it's classical like Warner or Hanna Barbara. Wikipedia refuses to acknowledge Freefall (1998-present) one of the long-running fairly-hard-science-fiction webcomics (that gets into space-travel culture and robot culture), specifically because it has an anthro as a main character, more precisely, a genetically engineered wolf, next to a robot and a non-human trader.

It's not that furries are weird. It's that society is weird about furries.

I had an idea that the paws salute should become the official salute of the new resistance (since furries have been marked as a target for fascist enemy within rhetoric), but then trying to do some basic web searches, I couldn't find a proper conventional name for the pose, nor easy-to-find art of it, even though I've seen the gesture made by catgirls often enough to know it's a thing, and one of the salutes I might consider when standing before the firing squad.

In the last few years, I went from being resignedly a man to being enby, having become disgusted with how dudes obsessed with manhood have conducted themselves in our society. Before, I didn't care that much, and my own notions of what it was to be a man turned into adulting in the 2010s (take care of business; make sure rent and utilities are paid; don't do violence, especially when nuclear weapons are involved). Now men look like Matt Walsh and Donald Trump.

I'm not a furry or otherkin (yet), but considering how the furry community is among the untermenschen, I'm half-inclined to develop a fursona for sake of solidarity.

And I still think the paws salute should be the sign of the resistance.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 30 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I read somewhere that someone's attitude to furries is a great litmus test for how tolerant that person actually is (assuming that person isn't a furry, of course). I've always found myself mildly confused by furries (and I used to be somewhat weirded out because I mainly knew of furries because a friend bought a house from drawing furry porn). Hearing the litmus test thing helped me to chill out a bunch and recognise that seeing lots of furries in and adjacent to my community was a sign of a healthy social ecosystem, so to speak

[–] inu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I’m not really a furry but I like drawing anthropomorphic characters, but sometimes that alone is enough for some people to shun you and kick you out of groups no matter how much you try to be accommodating.

I could have enjoyed drawing only humans, only women, only scenery. No problem. But the minute I stick cat ears on a human, it’s a problem?

Yeah, I’ll cut my losses and hang out with someone else.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago

I don't understand them. I doubt I ever will. But I know I do not hate them. They're doing nothing wrong, hurting no one, leave em be. Simple.

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[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 103 points 3 days ago (6 children)

All countries need official fursonas; can't change my mind.

[–] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's called a national animal

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Nope. Animals aren't fursonas. A fox fursona isn't a fox. Fursonas are anthropomorphic.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your mom is anthropomorphic

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

You're not wrong...

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Let's just anthropomorphize the animals then

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[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago

Honestly, I'm not surprised that any organization of sports would go for this design. It's not a great or original concept to begin with. It looks like a cereal box mascot.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Bizarrely, I had never heard of this before, and I am Australian. So maybe it was released, but maybe quietly swept under the rug?

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[–] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Weird. A real thing that somehow made it through every level... This is truly a remarkable example of the Swiss cheese model in action.

I give you, an eBay listing: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/314945286881

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 61 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't see why any level would go "Oh furries are going to love this, and we can't have that" and change the design.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How many NBA mascots would lose their jobs if we were all so uptight about shit like this?

[–] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)
[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 57 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I feel unsafe looking at that picture.

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[–] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If i had a penny every time Australia hired someone without knowing WHAT they were getting, i would have 2 pennies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OCs5_scouI&t=0

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[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 3 days ago

Oftopic, but lately I started to draw some furry ladys and its pretty fun try to make the fur feel smooth in the drawings.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"I...innocent soles..."

Well this is what happens when you let fish plan your campaigns.

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This has such MSI "there will be no bad dragons on my watch" vibes.

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