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[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

They have 4 years to tighten up. I'm not optimistic. The only victory they have had since Obama was a fear victory.. nobody wanted Biden they were scared of trump. That is played out.

The right did a good job of parading him around as an anti-establishment, for the common people candidate. I don't think that's true, but a lot of people do.

I hope the D party reorganizes as a populist anti-establishment party and holds a ranked choice primary with some young actually left leaning candidates who can't be bought.

To be honest, if the D party don't reform and earn my vote, I'm not giving it to them out of fear anymore. Before trump I had a "no lesser of two evils" policy for voting. And I'm going back to it. They had 4 years to plan, hold a primary, do some prosecuting of rich criminals, understand why Trump's popular and strategize to beat it, literally fucking anything. Did they?

I'm over it, they can run a fair primary with some progressive candidates and let the people decide, and then I'll vote. Tired of whatever they're doing and it looks like a lot of others are as well. Hope they figure out the obvious issue they have and fix it. Since its a two party system they're hogging the only route that the left has to success and fucking it up remarkably bad. Like I could do a better job and I'm an idiot.

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They will be the establishment no matter what they do lmfao. Can't claim to not be unless they choose to go the Republican route of lying their asses off

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 18 points 23 hours ago

Hear fucking hear.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 14 points 23 hours ago

Democrats are the establishment that needs to be laid out to pasture and replaced

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Democrats don't learn lessons.

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The democratic party per se isn't the problem.

First past the post democracies always result in what we have now. The democratic party will completely disappear under proportional representation. In it's place you will see a proliferation of the power that is being grimly clasped by the corporate kleptocracy and their minions. Instead of 1% deciding how we manage our society, everyone gets a say.

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[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

There simply won’t be another election.

The whole point is a cow’s opinion. It doesn’t matter.

[–] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

It's "moo".

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Wasn't there a recent conspiracy theory that the establishment doesn't want Trump (hence the assassination attempts) because he's an easily manipulated loose canon who doesn't follow orders like a good shill should lol?

Point being that dems lost this election because they are inherently more pro establishment and have been for a while.

[–] BMTea@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I think that there is one issue which Trump will deliver the Dems what they really want, and they won't stand in his way as he does it: liquidating Palestine entirely. In the next ten years if nothing is done by Arab nations, the UN or the US left, Israel will likely declare war on the Palestinian Authority itself, exiling or killing its leaders if they do not submit to Israeli sovereignty over the entirety of Palestine.

[–] BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Sounds like he'll end the genocide! Technically, it's no longer genocide when there's no one left to murder.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

Bit late init

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Monster grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the Noodle to know the difference.

RAmen

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

I suggest we all get together and form a party. We can hold it somewhere well known; maybe a waterfront, or harbor. I hear Boston is a nice place. Very patriotic even. We can even have refreshments; maybe a nice tea? Who’s in?

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