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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 112 points 4 months ago (1 children)

typical america moment

you get ID’d at the library.

Books? We must protect the children!

Guns? Oh, no take the children before my guns!

[–] ArrogantAnalyst@infosec.pub 2 points 4 months ago

Land of the free indeed.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 91 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This is the stupidest timeline.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 61 points 4 months ago

The fact that the stupidity is intentional and the desired result is the rub. Stupid, uneducated people are less likely to think critically and more likely to accept and support whatever bullshit ~~the political party behind all this shit~~ Republicans spew out.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 59 points 4 months ago (4 children)

If I was a librarian, I wouldn't enforce this stupid bullshit.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 78 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

as a former public librarian, i can tell you there are absolutely boomer losers with nothing to do who will sit there and make sure someone's enforcing it. so fucking glad i work at an academic library now and no one can say shit when i put the gayest books in existence on display

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

I'd be surprised if any do. I haven't heard of a single librarian that's been in favor of these shenanigans anywhere.

[–] Starrifier@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

These lunatics are working on making prison time the punishment for that, so good luck.

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 57 points 4 months ago

All part of the plan. The less educated the children are, the easier they can be exploited.

[–] Twinkletoes@lemm.ee 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah. Keep them kids out of the library. They should be at home on the internet where they will only be exposed to wholesome content.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Then when you need heart surgery, complain that your doctor is from another country.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 29 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This post is pretty out of context. https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/04/10/idaho-libraries-must-move-materials-deemed-harmful-to-children-or-face-lawsuits-under-new-law/

Some libraries are doing things like this as a form of protest. The law doesn't require such a stringent process as this, but that's irrelevant. What's relevant is the law is infringing on freedom of speech by regulating libraries' content.

[–] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't see how the law doesn't require libraries to go 18+ to be free of liability.

The language in this law is extremely broad. If anyone finds anything that they find objectionable in the children's section, they can sue the librarians.

There's literally no way to protect yourself against this but to bar all children from the library, unless they have parental supervision. This ensures that the parent remains liable since they have become an obligated chaperone while inside the library.

There's no way to actually remove all the "offensive" content from the children's section, because there's no way to actually know what books that the extremists this law was created to enable will object to next.

That it has the added effect of humiliating the Republicans who passed it by showing what it logically leads to, and angering parents who can no longer drop their kids off at the library, may be helpful in opposing this, but it looks like it's just the predictable result of short-sighted reactionary lawmaking.

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[–] redisdead@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure the very people who put out these laws are going to be extremely bothered by libraries preventing kids from accessing cheap culture and education

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[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 26 points 4 months ago

I posted this on my FB feed. One lady argued that it was down to parental rights to control what their kids consumed. I said just stay out of the public library and public schools, but she said that was not a "good faith" argument.

The irony is using "good faith" to impose their beliefs onto others was lost on her.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

And can't go to the library.

This is by design.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

The talibangeicals are winning.

[–] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

So the under 18 mother who was forced to carry a child can't take that child to a library or even go herself.

Yep, that tracks.

[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hatred and malice disguised as Christianity

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

There’s no disguise

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, Christianity used to be way more open and tolerant in the past.

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[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

As a rabblerouser above 18, if I browse the Restricted Stacks and accidentally forget them in the YA stacks, how much shit would those librarians be put through?

[–] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Why bother with that? I say go full Robin Hood, steal the restricted books and give them away to the youth. Or, if you've got the resources, run a black market library. It would be kinda like a speakeasy, with a password and a doorman and shit. Call it a "readeasy"? Since you're not supposed to talk in a library and all that.

[–] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

I'd say, whatever you do, it has to be obvious that the librarians are innocent. So I'd say 'accidentally' forgetting the stacks in the wrong section is out.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Depends on whether you've got LibsOfTikTok on the case.

Maybe the whole library gets defunded, idk.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They're not playing the game in good faith. Please don't help the bad people shut down libraries.

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[–] toastus 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes I think we should just go extinct and be done with this shit.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Oh, don't lose faith in humanity because of this. This is only happening in the US.

extremist right wins votes in Europe

Oh, shh…

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What's an unrestricted library card?

Is restricted card for under 18 a thing?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

It is now. In Idaho. Coming to other red states soon enough.

If girls are allowed to read, then they might be able to figure out how terribly they're treated. We obviously can't have that.

[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

What a fucking shithole

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 months ago

What a thing to steal and nail to your door lmao.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We should just landscape over the entire middle with forests and solar panels. Not Louisiana, you can stay but as a warning to everyone between you and New Mexico and Colorado.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hard to plant trees in the ocean

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mangroves are the trees of choice in the ocean.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Huh, good point.

Screw Louisiana then, it becomes a mangrove forest. Harder to do, but the ocean has unpaved the way at least.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

New Orleans is a national treasure and incredibly left politically. I'm not saying they don't have gang and gun violence problems, they do, but I feel more free in that city than anywhere else in the US.

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[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago

Hey MN is cool.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Restrict access to education and information. Which rule number of acquisition is this?

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