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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 11 points 2 days ago

Mfer really said "if I'm going down I'm taking my party and my entire country with me" : πŸ’€

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 62 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Biden had a bad debate: faces calls to withdraw from the race.

Trump convicted of 34 felonies: record fund raising.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

It's because Democrats don't worship Biden as some Jesus reborn patriot whereas Republicans worship a literally prideful, envious, slothly, wrathful, greedy, gluttonous, and lustful old man as some Jesus reborn candidate.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're being willfully obtuse. It wasn't a bad debate, it was 90 minutes of confirmation that Biden was unfit for office. It was a 90 minute confirmation of what had been dubbed "right-wing propaganda" until that very moment.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It was likewise 90 minutes of confirmation that Trump is unfair for office: a non-stop steam of rambling nonsense and lies. A vote for Biden is a vote for a capable administration to do the actual work while grandpa sunsets. A vote for Trump is a vote for an administration of lackeys and con-man champing at the bit to turn the loot the country and turn it into a Christo-fascist kleptocracy.

If you think a Commander in Chief who is definitely going to betray the country for personal gain is an acceptance alternative to one who might make a mistake because he's old, you deserve the hellscape you'll get. The rest of us don't though.

[–] CherenkovBlue@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We know that already, though, about Trump. We have known for years, and people either will or will not vote for Trump - their mind is already made up on kt. The Biden debate performance is a big deal because now we know Biden is not fit for the Presidency any more either, not because he did a bad job at it but simply because he is too old to go on. So now we need to talk about it and process it.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And an old sleepy man with a competent administration is still preferable to an old corrupt man with a Christo-fascist administration. It's a sucky choice, but an extremely easy one.

[–] CherenkovBlue@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's true, but it's not good.

Oh absolutely agreed, but the more discouraged apathetic voters, the more likely the Christo-fascists win. I have no interest in exacerbating that right now.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 3 days ago

Well yeah. That's just a drop in the long of things that trump supporters think makes him good.

Biden's facing calls because it's obvious he's at the elderly stage where he shouldn't be leading the country.

[–] charles@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Seriously. Can NYT Op-Ed run 100% "Trump should drop out" articles every time he does something far more disqualifying? They'll never run another opinion again.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

They tried that back in 2016 and it just made him stronger.

[–] velox_vulnus@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago

"Was real world a Monty Python show?"

"Always has been."

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Biden didn't have a bad debate. He and his team showed America that he's had a significant decline in mental capacity and instead gaslit the public and media about it.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Biden dropping out could actually lead to Trump's, defeat is the right person is chosen. If he dies of old age before the election, however, then we may see a landslide defeat.

That said, Trump is just as likely to die of old age at this point, if not moreso due to his propensity to indulge in hamburders and rage-fueled rants.

I guess stay I'm saying is fuck all of this. I've never felt less patriotic on the fourth of July than this year... What a fucking shitshow.

Edit: But hey, maybe Biden is right. Stubbornness and self-aggrandizing behavior worked out great for RBG, right?

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Congratulations, you seem to have realized that republicans are backward degenerate wastes-of-carbon.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 45 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The DNC and the American people are once again to blame for the rise of fascism in their own country. They knew Biden was too old to run again, they knew he's senile, they didn't try and find another candidate, didn't rally behind one, didn't bother to vote for anybody younger.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 days ago (3 children)

DNC putting out senile candidate without primaries

must be the people's fault!

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's a history here. Back with Jimmy Carter, he had a primary challenge from Ted Kennedy. Carter won, but only by 51% to 37%. He was already having trouble of course, but it was just one more thing that hurt him and got Reagan in power. We all know how that went. So now the general practice is to clear the field for the incumbent if they choose to run for reelection. Biden hasn't been given any special out.

Trump is of course an odd case since he's not an incumbent, but his grip on the Republican Party gives him a position near to that of an incumbent. He was always by far and away the frontrunner, and every other Republican candidate was for the chattering class.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Remember the write-in uncommitted thing? Those were primaries.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 45 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Post-debate poll showed that majority of Democrat voters aren't even voting for Biden. They are voting for "against Trump." Democrats had four years to find a candidate that people would actually want to vote for, but instead they pulled out the 2020 playbook thinking it would work the same.

[–] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 2 points 2 days ago

It's Her Turn guys Pokemon Go to the polls

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 34 points 3 days ago

"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make Jack!"

[–] nekandro@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

She might be the only person on Earth capable of doing worse than Biden if nominated except maaaaaybe Jeb! Bush

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Biden's alter ego is female?

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He joking that they'll run Hillary again.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago

Other people are guessing the reference is Harris. No idea.

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

It legitimately should be Kamala's turn but "It's Her Turn" was a 2016 slogan of Hillary.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 3 points 3 days ago

So is Hillary. I guess only OP knows who they mean.