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[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 30 points 4 months ago (3 children)

With 8 billion people alive I refuse to believe there is any statistical difference between days of the year. For example according to this infographic my birthday is one of the most common but the days before and after are not?

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

The color scale is terrible. Here is a more credible chart based on presumably the same data by Social Security Administration, covering 62,187,024 US births (2000-2014).

Meanwhile, the post's chart's actual Reddit OOP is u/plotset, an account made to shill PlotSet.com, a data visualization software.
They had this to say about the data:

This data represents 4,153,303 US-born babies only between 2000 and 2014.

Top 10 Most Common: Sep 12 (0.307%) Sep 19 (0.306%), Sep 20 (0.302%), Dec 19 (0.300%), Sep 10 (0.300%), Dec 20 (0.299%),Sep 18 (0.299%), Aug 8 (0.299%), Sep 26 (0.299%), Sep 17 (0.298%)

Top 10 Least Common: Dec 25 (0.155%), Jan 1 (0.186%), Dec 24 (0.193%), Jul 4 (0.212%), Jan 2 (0.231%), Dec 26 (0.238%), Nov 23 (0.238%), Nov 25 (0.240%), Nov 27 (0.241%), Nov 24 (0.241%)

Data Source: Kaggle.com/datasets/ayessa/birthday

Tools: PlotSet.com

Note that the "4,153,303" figure is bullshit. It is close to births per year but does not actually correspond to the sum in any of the 15 years, nor the average.

Also, neither chart normalizes by weekday: 3 of the years in question started on Tuesday and Saturday while only 1 on Friday, causing most of the variation that got amplified by OOP's terrible color range. (Because of leap years, I made a table of most common starting weekdays for each month; see my other comment. For example, one of the most common birthdays, August 15, was more often Wednesday or Friday than Saturday.) Without doing weird math, one can ensure the effect of weekdays is largely mitigated by using data from 28 consecutive years, which I believe can be pieced together from several good online sources but I'll be leaving that as an exercise to the reader.

[–] mal3oon@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

This absolutely varies by country/culture, not drastically, but you will see different patterns

[–] Johanno 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

So it is about average for almost all days. You have more births in fall, probably because of more sex in winter.

And it seems women really don't want to birth on important holidays. I didn't think that the power of will is that strong.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 5 points 4 months ago

Don't forget the weekdays. The total births in the dataset by weekday are:

SUN |||||||||||||||||||||||| 5886889
MON ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 9316001
TUE ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 10274874
WED |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 10109130
THU |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 10045436
FRI ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| 9850199
SAT |||||||||||||||||||||||||| 6704495

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It's not, but the power of scheduling a c-section so that you don't spend Christmas at the hospital is.

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

September births are more common because of christmas sex

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

It makes sense to pop your sprogs in spring and summer when food is more available.

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Now let's look at holidays 40 weeks prior...

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, everybody's parents are fuckin between Thanksgiving and New Years.

Anecdotally, I knew that years ago. I worked in a call center and got so bored that I'd mark the day in my yearly calendar when a customer had that birthday, and September and August filled up quick and had so many duplicates. Took me forever to fill up winter, though.

[–] Cipher22@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget Valentine's day.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Do you mean for the sex or giving birth? For the former, I'm guessing that's why there's a bump in December. For the latter, I wouldn't be surprised if people made extra effort to give birth on valentine's day. Plus, sex can induce labor if you're close.

[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 months ago

That is a fucking screenshot

[–] Binette@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It surprises me that there are a lot of births on valentine's day.

Like 9 months later? Sure. But this? Nah.

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I garantee you it's crazy people planning their sexy time accordingly and then pushing for a c-section cuz it's romantic

[–] ralakus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Also interesting to see how few births there are around Christmas.

"Can you hold it in just two more days, honey? Don't wanna ruin this year's celebration."

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 months ago

Hospital staffing and delivery management are more likely the causes. If the risk is low, they're less likely to start an induction on those days.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

For Christmas it makes sense because it saves a lot of money

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also discovered something crazy about birthdays when it comes to athletics and competitive sports.

An athletes chance of success are based on what month they are born. Depending on the sport, region and organizations and systems involved ... if an athlete is born earlier in the year and the rank they are placed in starts at the beginning of the year, they have a better chance because they will almost be a year older than the player born at the end of the year. In Junior leagues or youth divisions at 10 years of age to 18 ... a year makes a huge difference in the players.

I learned all of this from talking to a few individuals who went through provincial level hockey in Ontario.

When it comes to the top level sports ... what month you are born really matters.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 months ago

This matters in education too. Malcolm Gladwell did a bit of a study on it.

Makes sense though. In anything that is segregated by year, the oldest in one cohort is going to have nearly a full year more development than the youngest.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The high period before/after Christmas so that more of the medical community can have Christmas off is pretty strong.

I have no idea why August has such a strong weekly cycle, when July/September aren't that clear. I mean... surely weekend vs. weekday is canceled out by having multiple years that people are born in. If someone knows, I'd love to hear the answer.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The color scale hugely amplifies minor differences, see my other comment. In the dataset, 15 years (2000-2014) are represented and the weekly cycle is therefore present. This could have been mitigated by using a 28-year dataset. Here is how often each month started on a given day in the dataset. We don't have colored text so I used emoji.

01/ JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC
SUN 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 3⚠️ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 2➖
MON 2➖ 1🔻 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 2➖ 2➖ 3⚠️ 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️
TUE 3⚠️ 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 2➖ 1🔻 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻
WED 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 2➖ 2➖
THU 2➖ 2➖ 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 3⚠️ 2➖
FRI 1🔻 3⚠️ 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖
SAT 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 2➖ 1🔻 3⚠️ 2➖ 3⚠️ 3⚠️

Here is how likely any date is to be Monday-Friday in the data (out of 15):

How often Mon-Fri JAN FEB MAR APR MAY JUN JUL AUG SEP OCT NOV DEC
01/08/15/22/29 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 10🔻 10🔻 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻
02/09/16/23/30 11➖ 12⚠️ 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 10🔻 10🔻 12⚠️ 10🔻
03/10/17/24/31 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 10🔻 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖
04/11/18/25 10🔻 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 12⚠️
05/12/19/26 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖
06/13/20/27 12⚠️ 10🔻 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖
07/14/21/28 11➖ 10🔻 10🔻 11➖ 12⚠️ 10🔻 11➖ 11➖ 10🔻 11➖ 10🔻 10🔻

You can see for example that August 01/08/15/22/29 is 10-20% more likely to be a workday than other days, which corresponds to the extra births. Feb 29 cannot be read directly from this table; its value is 3 out of 4 (2000: Tue, 2004: Sun, 2008: Fri, 2012: Wed).

As for your question: every month has approximately the same strength of the weekly cycle, it's just that the prevailing colors in July-September show them the most. August's is more visible because it does not have the disrupting July 4 and September 11.

[–] prunerye@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 months ago

So February 31st is exactly average?

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 months ago
[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Man, fuck the number 22. Absolutely hate that monstrosity.